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#1508 - 09/02/08 06:15 PM Re: Election results [Re: nwyfzguy]
Bogus_bill Offline
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Brown would have at least been a pain in Cassy's side.


Casey did a fine job in my opinion. I am not sure what your beef is. I imagine it must expenditures. In hindsight there were generators bought that should not have been but that is hindsight. I feel the mill is a mistake. That is a gut feeling and not backed by research.

You see other problems???
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#1511 - 09/02/08 07:15 PM Re: Election results [Re: nwyfzguy]
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Originally Posted By: nwyfzguy
By-the-way Eddy's not up on the issues he just likes to talk and can spiel the right BS that makes you think he knows what he's talking about.


Since The Knuckle-Dragger was proved wrong with just about all of his campaign points, I find this an amazing claim. How about some details?

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Both him and Cassy are too polluted in their party politics to do what's right for the rate payers and the PUD employee's.


But Mr. Republican-of-the-Year 2007 is above party politics, eh?

The Democratic Party doesn't get involved in specific PUD issues but does support the concept of publicly-owned power, in general. I can tell you one key difference that should be a concern for PUD ratepayers...the Republican Party, in general, doesn't support publicly-owned power.

Why put someone in a leadership position of an organization that he/she doesn't even believe in? Makes no sense to me!
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#1512 - 09/02/08 07:17 PM Re: Election results [Re: Bogus_bill]
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Originally Posted By: Bogus_bill
[quote]C In hindsight there were generators bought that should not have been but that is hindsight.


And just to clarify, the generators were purchased prior to Eddy's tenure with the PUD. Frank Moses, current Republican candidate for county commissioner, was a PUD commissioner then, but not Jim Eddy.
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#1539 - 09/02/08 10:22 PM Re: Election results [Re: Lumberjack]
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Originally Posted By: Lumberjack


Enlighten us. On which issues facing the PUD is Eddy giving a BS speil?


Well to begin with, just about everything he said about the Mill was wrong. His comments and writings about corporations are wrong.
Eddy likes the sound of his voice and can’t seem to keep his mouth shut, hopefully this will cost him his PUD job.
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#1540 - 09/02/08 10:34 PM Re: Election results [Re: funkycamper]
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Originally Posted By: funkycamper

The Democratic Party doesn't get involved in specific PUD issues but does support the concept of publicly-owned power, in general.


This is not true the democrats have endorsed Eddy for PUD commissioner.

The Republicans I know support Publicly-owned power. They don’t support government owned or publicly -owned using its powers to interfere with the competitive private market or using its powers to seize private property.
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#1541 - 09/02/08 10:36 PM Re: Election results [Re: nwyfzguy]
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Eddy likes the sound of his voice and can’t seem to keep his mouth shut, hopefully this will cost him his PUD job


grinIf you don't like Eddy, you don't have to hold back. grin

I have sat through a half dozen PUD meetings and, all in all, been fairly impressed with the knowledge these folks possess about the power market. They are good at their jobs.

Again I ask, have you any specifics with your complaints?
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#1542 - 09/02/08 11:01 PM Re: Election results [Re: Stash]
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Originally Posted By: Stash
It's "do not care in the least" and "Casey".


I am truly sorry for my errors in grammar. I am doing the best I can with my public school education.
If you want to make me look bad by comparing your education against mine it won’t be hard.
If you can beat a dyslexic 11th grade drop out with a GED you won.

I have worked hard to improve my spelling and writing skills but I must admit I have countless shortcomings. I have worked hard to overcome my deficiencies. I have honorably served and retired from the Military after 20 years. I am now going into my 10th year of small business ownership where I employ 15 people paying family wage jobs with full benefits.

I sometimes feel good of what I have accomplished and then someone like you comes around and kicks me in the knees. I don’t care if you don’t like my writings. I will not be silenced by the likes of someone like you.
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#1544 - 09/02/08 11:47 PM Re: Election results [Re: nwyfzguy]
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Originally Posted By: nwyfzguy

I have honorably served and retired from the Military after 20 years.


A 20-year military man... who supports the party that has effectively destroyed the U.S. military? The party that opposed the new G.I. Bill because, in John McCain's words, it was too generous? The party responsible for over 4,000 U.S. servicemen and women dying so China can get Iraq's oil?

It's not your spelling and grammar that makes me question your judgement, friend. But welcome to the board anyway.

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#1555 - 09/03/08 07:02 AM Re: Election results [Re: nwyfzguy]
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No apology necessary and certainly no intent silence you. I welcome your presence here and welcome your comments.

I was offering a correction... primarily on an individual's name. I thought it was important.

And, "by the likes of someone like you"? A little over the top, don't you think?
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#1557 - 09/03/08 07:27 AM Re: Election results [Re: nwyfzguy]
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Originally Posted By: nwyfzguy
Originally Posted By: funkycamper

The Democratic Party doesn't get involved in specific PUD issues but does support the concept of publicly-owned power, in general.


This is not true the democrats have endorsed Eddy for PUD commissioner.

The Republicans I know support Publicly-owned power. They don’t support government owned or publicly -owned using its powers to interfere with the competitive private market or using its powers to seize private property.


The Republicans you know *around here* grew up with the idea that public power is just the way things work. Elsewhere in this country that is clearly not the case. Rolling blackouts? Enron? Worldcom? That's the result of privatized power.

Public utility districts DO UNAVOIDABLY compete with private utilities. Puget Sound Energy would love to have YOUR power lines, infrastructure and facilities, and you appear quite happy to elect people who would give it to them. I find it incredible that Republicans can simultaneously hold the beliefs that publicly-owned operations are completely inefficient and wasteful yet have an unfair advantage and thus need to be prevented from competing with the poor helpless for-profit operations.

The federal government is controlled by people who think rolling blackouts are good for business, so they have appointed people to the BPA who are willing to break the law to line the pockets of private utility investors with your money. Something like 15% of your utility dollars are given directly to private utilities because "it's not fair" that we own our generating assets and can thus enjoy cheaper electric rates. Despite that 15% hit, we still have $.065 kwh rates, which is better than almost all customers of private utilities.

Only a few short years ago, our PUD was controlled by Republicans. Those two guys cost us money, jobs and credibility. For example, the federal government gave the community the money to replace the industrial waterline which (I understand) both the Sierra Pacific and Weyerhaeuser mills use. The only stipulation was that a county-wide public entity had to accept the money and administer the contracts. Because of stupidity, belligerence and Republican dogma, the PUD refused. The county, being less stupid than Moses and Moe, accepted the money and went into the "public utility" business, thus saving jobs.

As Funkycamper pointed out, it was those two guys who bought the diesel generators.

They screwed up so badly because like most Republicans, they think that government is basically bad. So, they run for the opportunity to control said government so that they can be in a position to prove themselves right.

There are a few things about PUD pricing which I'd suggest changing, (it does not promote conservation to charge those who use essentially zero electricity a very high minimum charge) but in general, we are extremely fortunate to own our own utilities.


Edited by Lumberjack (09/03/08 07:41 AM)
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