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#1585 - 09/03/08 03:37 PM Re: Election results [Re: nwyfzguy]
Lumberjack Offline
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Originally Posted By: nwyfzguy

Public-owned power only competes with private power at the local level. Such as when they use their government powers in an unfair way such as seizing property or forcing fair market bidding higher than a fair price public power can do this only because their resources are basically unlimited.
In the open power exchange market the playing field is even because of simple supply and demand.


It's the private utilities which have the unlimited resources, and they are using those resources to buy politicians to take your money as a public utility customer.

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On another note....Why did Eddy sell the diesel generators? They sure would have been handy during last December’s storm.


Good idea. We'll just hook a whole sh*tload of extension cords up to 'em.

... you do know that the local distribution system was destroyed, right?
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#1586 - 09/03/08 03:37 PM Re: Election results [Re: Bogus_bill]
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Originally Posted By: Bogus_bill
Congratulations on your progress on your spelling. Your grammar has gotten much better as well. And now I see you are a photoshop expert....

If your messages start becoming one-liners I am going to start to wonder about your true identity. grin


Anyone seen Mr.C lately? whistle

As an aside: I think Stash was wanting one of those bumper stickers.

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#1587 - 09/03/08 03:43 PM Re: Election results [Re: Incognita]
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As an aside: I think Stash was wanting one of those bumper stickers.


Damn straight! But, why Nancy's picture? It could have been Cathy Colley's or Mr. C's or xmsyncguy's or anyone but Nancy. Geez Louise.
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#1588 - 09/03/08 03:57 PM Re: Election results [Re: nwyfzguy]
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"Seize" would imply taking without compensation. PUD's have the power of emiment domain which requires,

A. a public need and/or benefit and,
B. fair market compensation

Property "seized", to use your word, under eminant domain would be appraised and that fair market compensation would consumate the deal. That's the way highways are built, bridges are build, heck that's the way the PUD was built. After the people formed the PUD, the assets of Grays Harbor Railroad and Light Company were appraised and a check was cut.

Do you really have a problem with that?


Edited by Stash (09/03/08 04:12 PM)
Edit Reason: to fix the grammar
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#1589 - 09/03/08 04:17 PM Re: Election results [Re: Bogus_bill]
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Originally Posted By: Bogus_bill
Congratulations on your progress on your spelling. Your grammar has gotten much better as well. And now I see you are a photoshop expert....

If your messages start becoming one-liners I am going to start to wonder about your true identity. grin


No photoshop here I just scanned the real bumper sticker.

If you want one just private email me your mailing address and I will send you one for free.
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#1593 - 09/03/08 06:17 PM Re: Election results [Re: nwyfzguy]
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Originally Posted By: nwyfzguy
No photoshop here I just scanned the real bumper sticker.


And you criticize Eddy for his endorsement by Democrats?

If I were Eddy, I'd by happy as heck that his opponent wants to make this a partisan race.

Democrat v. Repub... err "GOP"? Not a contest.


Edited by Lumberjack (09/03/08 06:18 PM)
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#1597 - 09/03/08 06:58 PM Re: Election results [Re: Lumberjack]
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Good point!

Look at the 60+% Wilson, Van De Wege, and Kessler all got. Not to mention the 100% for Hatfield, Blake and Takko.

I'm just wondering if any of the Republicants are going to go below the Straka Line (27%) - The GHC political equivalent to baseball's Mendoza Line.


Edited by funkycamper (09/03/08 06:59 PM)
Edit Reason: changed some wording
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#1662 - 09/04/08 11:13 AM Re: Election results [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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Originally Posted By: Beavis H. Christ
A 20-year military man... who supports the party that has effectively destroyed the U.S. military? The party that opposed the new G.I. Bill because, in John McCain's words, it was too generous? The party responsible for over 4,000 U.S. servicemen and women dying so China can get Iraq's oil?

It's not your spelling and grammar that makes me question your judgement, friend. But welcome to the board anyway.


During my 20 yrs of service I suffered through the Carter years, he was the worst Commander and Chief ever. Then under Reagan-Bush (H.W.) we received the funding for equipment and training, troop morale was the highest anyone had ever seen. No matter where in the world I was assigned we as a Country were respected and in most cases welcomed and thanked for being there.

Then came Clinton, he and his socialist liberal agenda and policies first destroyed the morale, then the budget. Our equipment was not being updated or replaced, training was almost none existent. His foreign policies sent unprepared, ill-equip, understaffed units into non-traditional roles that lead to disaster and the needless deaths of thousands of U.S. Military personnel.

As far as the Iraqi war deaths, it is sad anytime an American loses his or her life on foreign soil. Because of this sacrifice the Iraqi people are now free and soon will have complete and total control of their country without US interference.

The GI bill you talk about, I too did not agree with it. The bill was pumped up by the libs with completely unrealistic benefits that would have encourage personnel to get out as soon as possible.

This bill went way beyond even what the WWII guys got (which was darn good). Pelosi and her Cronies’ porked the bill to force the Republicans to vote against it, this was done to give her side ammo to spin against the Republicans.
Well, the American people are starting to see through this BS and are going to vote Republican this year.

Bush (W) has not been (in my opinion) the best President. His intent was good but his execution was poor. However, after Carter & Clinton I would never want to serve under a Democrat again.
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#1664 - 09/04/08 11:39 AM Re: Election results [Re: funkycamper]
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Originally Posted By: funkycamper
Good point!

Look at the 60+% Wilson, Van De Wege, and Kessler all got. Not to mention the 100% for Hatfield, Blake and Takko.

I'm just wondering if any of the Republicants are going to go below the Straka Line (27%) - The GHC political equivalent to baseball's Mendoza Line.


The economic suffering this County is plagued with along with having the 5th highest property taxes in the State are a direct resolute of the Democrats strangle hold on this County.

Because of the oppressive political attitude that runs ramped here in this County business bailed from here years ago.

This county is anti everything except welfare and labor unions. Most business can’t survive in that kind of environment, just look at Detroit the labor unions have destroyed the auto industry and the city of Detroit along with it. Boy that was good for the “worker” wasn’t it?

Libs just can’t seem to figure it out, government does not create wealth, individuals create wealth.
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#1669 - 09/04/08 12:24 PM Re: Election results [Re: nwyfzguy]
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Originally Posted By: nwyfzguy

Then under Reagan-Bush (H.W.) we received the funding for equipment and training, troop morale was the highest anyone had ever seen.


Reagan tripled spending for weapons development programs (especially the ones that didn't work, like the A-12, DIVAD, and Star Wars) and cut training, benefits, and maintenance for the front line soldiers and equipment. Also, it was under Reagan that the original GI Bill was junked.

Originally Posted By: nwyfzguy
Then came Clinton, he and his socialist liberal agenda and policies first destroyed the morale, then the budget. Our equipment was not being updated or replaced, training was almost none existent.


Whose military did you serve in? Obviously not the U.S. military. Clinton actually spent more on the military than George H.W. Bush did, and it was Clinton's armed forces that were the instruments of the quick successes in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Unfortunately in both cases that military then had to be maintained by Dubya, not to mention given a mission, and he failed on both fronts.

Originally Posted By: nwyfzguy
His foreign policies sent unprepared, ill-equip, understaffed units into non-traditional roles that lead to disaster and the needless deaths of thousands of U.S. Military personnel.


Thousands?

Military casualties under Clinton: 179 dead, 164 wounded, and that includes Somalia, which was started by George H.W. Bush.

Military casualties under George W. Bush: More than 4,700 dead, over 30,000 wounded, and counting.

By comparison, the totals under Reagan were 344 dead and 319 wounded, and under Carter (your "worst ever," who also happened to be a decorated Navy officer) zero. NO dead, no wounded, no war.

Originally Posted By: nwyfzguy
The GI bill you talk about, I too did not agree with it. The bill was pumped up by the libs with completely unrealistic benefits that would have encourage personnel to get out as soon as possible.


Support the troops... just don't support them too well?

Admit it. The closest you've been to the military is a Boy Scout uniform.

Originally Posted By: nwyfzguy
This bill went way beyond even what the WWII guys got


Wrong. The bill includes a 20 percent increase over the Reagan-era Montgomery GI Bill. It's still not as much as the original or even the 1966 version.

Originally Posted By: nwyfzguy
Pelosi and her Cronies’ porked the bill to force the Republicans to vote against it,


Wrong again. The bill was sponsored by Senator Jim Webb, who was Ronald Reagans' Secretary of the Navy and only switched parties after realizing just how much damage the Republicans were (and are) doing to the military.

The new GI Bill is also supported by the VFW, AMVETS, Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA), the Disabled American Veterans (DAV), the Paralyzed Veterans of America (PVA), and the Student Veterans of America (SVA).

Are they "Pelosi cronies"? I bet you have a hard time staying out of fistfights when you try b.s.'ing your way into the VFW bar, don't you?

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