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#1385 - 08/30/08 10:10 PM Prayers for the people of New Orleans
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Looks real ugly!
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#1395 - 09/01/08 12:41 AM Re: Prayers for the people of New Orleans [Re: Thumper]
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Yup, hope all goes better than predicted.
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#1443 - 09/01/08 07:32 PM Re: Prayers for the people of New Orleans [Re: funkycamper]
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The reports on President Bush's management changes for emergencies like this are excellent. Impossible to get all those people out by road? Bush's new team did it anyway.

New Orleans got lucky this time. Thanks to the new, improved FEMA even a bad storm should not bring the deaths Katrina did.

They did a heckuva job.

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#1449 - 09/01/08 08:10 PM Re: Prayers for the people of New Orleans [Re: Bogus_bill]
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Yes, I'm thrilled that FEMA actually worked with local and state officials this time instead of against them. It made a big difference.
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#1450 - 09/01/08 08:27 PM Re: Prayers for the people of New Orleans [Re: funkycamper]
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There are a lot of things that are part of running a government. FEMA was not paid attention to, probably, forever. They were not ready for the big one. Katrina pointed that out. It got management's attention (Bush)and operations changed.

Mistakes happen. What you learn from them and how you prevent them from happening again are management skills.

Give credit where credit is due. If Bush was to blame for the response to the last disaster, he is to be credited for making the right things happen in the future.

FEMA was a part of the government he had not seen a problem with. It is now not a problem.

A "well done" to this administration.

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#1456 - 09/01/08 10:26 PM Re: Prayers for the people of New Orleans [Re: Bogus_bill]
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If Katrina had been the first big disaster that FEMA had ever dealt with, I would give your argument some credence. However, it wasn't. FEMA had performed admirably and quickly in numerous disasters prior to Bush putting Brownie in charge who, upon orders, restructured FEMA in ways that compartmentalized operations which, in turn, slowed inter-departmental communications and response times.

Brush broke it and then fixed what he broke. I'm not impressed.

Add to that, the populace is certainly more likely to take evacuation announcements seriously after Katrina. From everything I've heard, that went a long way toward a successful evacuation as well.
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#1458 - 09/02/08 12:12 AM Re: Prayers for the people of New Orleans [Re: funkycamper]
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If not for the fact that the Republican National Convention was this week, you can bet Louisiana would be drowning again with no federal help whatsoever.

After all, when McCain commits his latest cheap and hollow political ploy and uses the destruction as a backdrop for his acceptance speech later this week, it wouldn't do for there to have been a week of bad press leading up to it.

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#1668 - 09/04/08 12:23 PM Re: Prayers for the people of New Orleans [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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I just talk to someone on the phone who is in the area of the storm (assisting her mother) and she said the power is still out and will be for some time. The house lost a few shakes (so not bad) but they lost 1/2 of there (some kind of nut tree's). She was a bit shaken up.

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#1703 - 09/05/08 01:04 AM Re: Prayers for the people of New Orleans [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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Originally Posted By: Beavis H. Christ
If not for the fact that the Republican National Convention was this week, you can bet Louisiana would be drowning again with no federal help whatsoever.


Are you saying the Republicans held back the water? Pinch me I must be dreaming. grin
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