#23667 - 11/30/09 07:22 PM
Re: I am a racist bigot
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Carpal Tunnel
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Then why have we been in Afghanistan and Iraq for so long? Why don't you research that, Beav, and report back to us.
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#23681 - 12/01/09 01:07 AM
Re: I am a racist bigot
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Registered: 10/25/09
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And who was President when those reports were submitted? Clinton didn't do anything and neither did Bush. To me they are all equally at fault.
The CIA, which was run by George Tenet, that President Bush gave the Medal of Freedom to, he said, "He did a good job setting up all these counterterrorism things."
The country never had a comprehensive anti-terror operation until I came there.
Now, if you want to criticize me for one thing, you can criticize me for this: After the Cole, I had battle plans drawn to go into Afghanistan, overthrow the Taliban, and launch a full-scale attack search for bin Laden.
But we needed basing rights in Uzbekistan, which we got after 9/11.
The CIA and the FBI refused to certify that bin Laden was responsible while I was there. They refused to certify. So that meant I would've had to send a few hundred Special Forces in helicopters and refuel at night.
But at least I tried. That's the difference in me and some, including all the right-wingers who are attacking me now. They ridiculed me for trying. They had eight months to try. They did not try. I tried.
So I tried and failed. When I failed, I left a comprehensive anti-terror strategy and the best guy in the country, Dick Clarke, who got demoted.
I worked hard to try to kill (Bin Laden). I authorized a finding for the CIA to kill him. We contracted with people to kill him. I got closer to killing him than anybody has gotten since. And if I were still president, we'd have more than 20,000 troops there trying to kill him.
Now, I've never criticized President Bush, and I don't think this is useful. But you know we do have a government that thinks Afghanistan is only one-seventh as important as Iraq.
And you ask me about terror and Al Qaeda with that sort of dismissive thing? When all you have to do is read Richard Clarke's book to look at what we did in a comprehensive, systematic way to try to protect the country against terror.
I had responsibility for trying to protect this country. I tried and I failed to get bin Laden. I regret it. But I did try. And I did everything I thought I responsibly could.
The entire military was against sending Special Forces in to Afghanistan and refueling by helicopter. And no one thought we could do it otherwise, because we could not get the CIA and the FBI to certify that Al Qaeda was responsible while I was president.
And so, I left office. And yet, I get asked about this all the time. They had three times as much time to deal with it, and nobody ever asks them about it. I think that's strange.--President William Jefferson Clinton I did not have sex with that woman! Slick Willie
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#23685 - 12/01/09 02:21 AM
Re: I am a racist bigot
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Registered: 07/08/08
Posts: 3509
Loc: Heaven. Yeah, cool.
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I did not have sex with that woman!
Slick Willie
That's a really stupid response, on the level of a typical Iky retort almost. Try again.
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#23697 - 12/01/09 02:44 PM
Re: I am a racist bigot
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 07/09/08
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I can only speak for myself but if you do one of those quick word association things like:
Sweet......sugar
Black.......coal
Bill Clinton.....Monica Lewinsky
I am sure he did something else when he was in office but I just can't think of it.
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#23698 - 12/01/09 03:03 PM
Re: I am a racist bigot
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Registered: 07/08/08
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I am sure he did something else when he was in office but I just can't think of it.
Ask the first World Trade Center bombers. I bet they can recall. Of course you'd have to catch them during the one hour a day they're allowed out of their cells.
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#23707 - 12/01/09 06:51 PM
Re: I am a racist bigot
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veteran
Registered: 03/31/09
Posts: 1203
Loc: AberVegas
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Lewinski is not a red herring when it comes to Bill Clinton and Osama Bin Laden. At least in the sense that if he didn't partake in a tainted cigar, he might have had the political capital to go after Bin Laden in 1998.
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#23746 - 12/02/09 12:43 PM
Re: I am a racist bigot
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Registered: 07/08/08
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Obama doesn't suffer from any "tainted cigars" (!), yet does he have the political capital to invade any countries?
The opposition party then, as now, is doing what opposition parties do; oppose.
There was no compelling reason to go after Bin Laden in a large scale way in 1998. Those reasons came later after OBL was involved in bombing the Cole.
Even then, Republicans would have opposed action "Bombing another aspirin factory??" "Wag the dog??"
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#23747 - 12/02/09 12:44 PM
Re: I am a racist bigot
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 07/08/08
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I can only speak for myself but if you do one of those quick word association things like:
Sweet......sugar
Black.......coal
Bill Clinton.....Monica Lewinsky It's more like Tourettes than free-association.
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