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#24656 - 12/25/09 09:41 AM It's painful
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to watch Malia Obama walk. Does the young lady have a spine or hip deformity of some kind?

Catching a news blip of them deplaning in Hawaii reminded me of this. I'm at a loss why her parents do not teach, or do not hire someone to teach, that beautiful girl how to carry herself. She walks like a lumbering yak...usually with head down.

...just something that has bugged me this past year...
there...it's off my chest...
just wiping the slate clean for the new year. lol

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#24660 - 12/25/09 09:48 AM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak

to watch Malia Obama walk. Does the young lady have a spine or hip deformity of some kind?

Catching a news blip of them deplaning in Hawaii reminded me of this. I'm at a loss why her parents do not teach, or do not hire someone to teach, that beautiful girl how to carry herself. She walks like a lumbering yak...usually with head down.

...just something that has bugged me this past year...
there...it's off my chest...
just wiping the slate clean for the new year. lol



Wow. On Christmas Day, racism so intense it manifests itself in an attack on someone's child.

Supply-Side Jesus must be so proud.

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#24662 - 12/25/09 09:52 AM Re: It's painful [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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Identifying her as a "beautiful girl" is terribly racist, isn't it?

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#24664 - 12/25/09 10:25 AM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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Good grief.
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#24667 - 12/25/09 10:43 AM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak

Identifying her as a "beautiful girl" is terribly racist, isn't it?


"She walks like a lumbering yak," etc.?

Just admit it, Iky--you hate the Obama family because they're black.

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#24668 - 12/25/09 12:33 PM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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#24670 - 12/25/09 01:24 PM Re: It's painful [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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Originally Posted By: Beavis H. Christ
Originally Posted By: ikayak

Identifying her as a "beautiful girl" is terribly racist, isn't it?


"She walks like a lumbering yak," etc.?

Just admit it, Iky--you hate the Obama family because they're black.


Yeah...and I hate my black family members, too, because they're black.

And you hate me because I'm white.

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#24672 - 12/25/09 01:50 PM Re: It's painful [Re: Turnow]
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Originally Posted By: Turnow
Good grief.


Do you have children?
If so, did you not provide them with guidance on the importance society places on a good first impression...not to mention developing healthy habits? Poor posture and awkward gait can not only cause health complications, they can be a symptom of underlying health problems.

As our daughter was developing, it was important to us as parents to encourage correct posture and with that the development of graceful movement. Our daughter is in her mid-thirties today, and she remains conscious to the benefit of maintaining correct posture and balance.

I was admiring her grace and beauty and beautiful posture last night as she was leading worship music for her church's Christmas Eve service. I felt sorry (as I have in the past) that Malia suffers from such poor posture and awkward gait. It's always really bugged me that it seems her parents aren't interested in helping correct it. I wondered if she had a congenital spine or hip condition at the cause. Sue me.


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#24673 - 12/25/09 03:33 PM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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Heres what I hate... I hate the arthritis that has been in my hands for the passed 20 years and the hip problems that have been bugging me for the last 15. Bottom line is, I can probably sympathise with Ms. Obama as I am not a pretty sight to look at when I walk.
The wife can outwalk and probably out run me as well, other then that, health is pretty good so I guess I should be thankful this Christmas season.
Anyway, I have not seen the Obama's family in the news lately, is there footage or a clip somewhere where you saw her walk?

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#24674 - 12/25/09 03:41 PM Re: It's painful [Re: fuzzywuzzy]
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I'm with you, fuzzy. My $500 orthodics help me walk a bit better, but they sure don't stop my feet from hurting.
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#24675 - 12/25/09 04:03 PM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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Double good grief.
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#24678 - 12/25/09 04:47 PM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak

Yeah...and I hate my black family members, too, because they're black.



lmao

Right. And some of your best friends are gay. And you hate gay people too! Must make Thanksgiving awkward.

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#24681 - 12/25/09 05:25 PM Re: It's painful [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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Beavis, the large maternal side of my family live way south of the Mason-Dixon line...always have. My mother and one sister (eight siblings) were the only family members to move out of the South...ever. I have black family members by marriage and their progeny, and also by adoption. And just for the record, I don't hate any of them for any reason. I have one gay aunt and one gay cousin (they are not mother and child) that I know of on the maternal side of my family, and the daughter of one cousin on the paternal side of my family just "came out"...none whom I hate either.

Period.

I no longer will be responding to your racism ugliness.


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#24682 - 12/25/09 05:30 PM Re: It's painful [Re: fuzzywuzzy]
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Fuzzy, I've seen footage which included her walking a few times, this morning it was of her deplaning with her family in Hawaii.

I'm probably more aware of it than others on this board because I was born with a congenital hip defect that wasn't medically diagnosed until my late teens. Because of this my legs and feet naturally want to point inward, like inverted first and second ballet foot positions.

I went through years of teasing for being pigeon-toed, a few years of corrective shoes, and continual excrutiating pain while participating in sports. Now in my mid-fifties, I always have some level of back and hip pain, and it's starting to affect my love of hiking, as there are days when my right leg/hip just give out.

I had both my children's spines and hips checked when they were infants, to make sure it wasn't something I passed on to them...and fortunately did not. It was important to me that they both developed excellent posture and grace, which we saw to it that they did.

Unless Malia Obama has a spine or hip problem, I think her parents are doing her a disservice allowing her to practice the habit of walking like a lumbering yak with her head down.

At the immediate beginning of this video, you can catch a second of her deportment, identical to that which I've seen on other news tapes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0V7z2z7YFo&feature=related

If she were my daughter, it would have been corrected...unless of course, there is a physical reason why it cannot.




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#24710 - 12/26/09 03:07 PM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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So this whole thread is about you and your accomplishments stemming from your teaching your daughter grace? You employ the tactic of denigrating a stranger and her famliy in order to raise the subject and contrast it to your own experiences? Funny.
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#24715 - 12/26/09 05:19 PM Re: It's painful [Re: imhotep]
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Yes, it is.

Good grief, she's just 10, right? And she has grown bunches in the last couple of years. Most kids go through a clumsy stage when they have big growth spurts. Chill.
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#24716 - 12/26/09 05:23 PM Re: It's painful [Re: imhotep]
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It's also funny that I'm not surprised you chose to take it that way.

This is the flame pit. I'm flaming her parents for allowing her to continue in atrocious posture and spastic gait...leaning forward, arms swinging in front of her, head down. It's not healthy.

And yeah, we scrimped and scrimped to keep our children in dance and taekwondo so they would develop proper posture, balance, and grace. It's at least one thing we did right as parents. I doubt if the O's would have to scrimp. I imagine they could probably afford private deportment lessons. I think it's crappy for their daughter that they obviously have not.

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#24720 - 12/26/09 05:39 PM Re: It's painful [Re: imhotep]
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Some folks believe so in their inherent superiority that they feel they have the standing and the qualifications to judge how other folks raise their children or live their lives.

Others are such complete knee jerk tools of the emerging hate Obama industry that they will seize upon any opportunity, no matter how astoundingly insipid, to criticize elected officials with whom they disagree, even if it involves denigrating his child.

Take your pick.
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#24722 - 12/26/09 05:44 PM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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How do you know that?

I reached full height by age 11. Also developed early. I slouched for years due to being one of the tallest and to hide my burgeoning chest. My mom continually made me walk while balancing the dictionary on my head and made other efforts to get me to walk straight and tall. Until I got into about 9th grade and began to feel comfortable with my body, it was all for naught. I simply refused to do so. I was just too self-conscious to care about things like being graceful at that point in my young life.

Maybe they are doing things and Malia is just as stubborn as I was.

Or maybe they are wiser than my mom because all it did was make me feel inadequate and resent her efforts. I developed good posture when I was ready to do so. Maybe the Obamas are wise enough to know that her daughter will probably do the same when she's ready.

I have no idea how you can come to that conclusion with absolutely no evidence to support it. Obviously? Hardly.
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#24724 - 12/26/09 05:57 PM Re: It's painful [Re: Turnow]
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I do not hate the Obamas.
God has place them in the positions they currently hold for a reason. I don't quibble with God or 2nd guess Him. I criticize them for allowing their daughter to negatively impact herself with horrendous posture.

Funky, if Malia is as stubborn and rebellious against authority as you, then the Obamas have my complete sympathy and I'll get off their case about it.

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#24727 - 12/26/09 06:01 PM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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Triple good grief.
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#24730 - 12/26/09 06:30 PM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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Oh, no, you're not judgmental at all, are you? Bah!
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#24732 - 12/26/09 06:39 PM Re: It's painful [Re: funkycamper]
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Am I making a judgment about her posture and deportment?
yup.

Is my judgment about her posture and deportment in error?
nope. It's horrendous.

And if it's not caused by a physical defect unable to be corrected at this point in time, and they're not addressing it, then I'm judging it crappy on their part. Crucify me.

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#24734 - 12/26/09 06:45 PM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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And I am flaming you for, well, apparently revealing your true motive in public (hateful bigot). (Your self purported Christian ethos has yet to reveal itself. Keep workin' at it.)


Edited by imhotep (12/26/09 07:29 PM)
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#24735 - 12/26/09 06:50 PM Re: It's painful [Re: imhotep]
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So now it's hateful and anti-Christian to say that a beautiful girl's posture and deportment is horrendous, unhealthy, and needs to be corrected.

Uh...okay.

Hateful.

LOL...I see you toned down your post.
Good choice.

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#24736 - 12/26/09 06:52 PM Re: It's painful [Re: imhotep]
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Originally Posted By: imhotep
And I am flaming you for, well, apparently revealing your true motive in public.



OOOOOOOOO...I'll be better at keeping them a big secret from now on.

ROTFL

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#24737 - 12/26/09 07:17 PM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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It seems to me that with just a little thought even you could have come up with a more worthy subject to which to apply your sanctimony on Christmas day. Of course, as always, I could be wrong.
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#24739 - 12/26/09 07:24 PM Re: It's painful [Re: Turnow]
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Of course, as always, I could be wrong.


Your magnanimousness is duly noted.

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#24746 - 12/26/09 09:02 PM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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And, since this is the flaming pit, if this site is a reflection of your witness, someone needs to correct you. It is a horrible witness. You need to get your head up and out of your ass.

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#24747 - 12/26/09 09:07 PM Re: It's painful [Re: imhotep]
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Originally Posted By: imhotep
And I am flaming you for, well, apparently revealing your true motive in public (hateful bigot). (Your self purported Christian ethos has yet to reveal itself. Keep workin' at it.)


I see you ramped it up again...poor choice.
Even Obama has told people like you and Beavis who continually throw out the racism/bigot card to knock it off. Perhaps you're just too hateful to heed his plea.

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#24748 - 12/26/09 09:16 PM Re: It's painful [Re: MonteMark]
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Got it, Agent Smith.
Any criticism of a public figure, especially of one at least partially African-American, concerning their politics, lifestyle, or parenting, is completely off-limits in this matrix; especially when said public figure hasn't spotlighted his children on a national stage, approved photo and interview spreads in People Magazine, and let his daughter be interviewed on Access Hollywood. Oh...wait...

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#24752 - 12/26/09 09:39 PM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak

Got it, Agent Smith.
Any criticism of a public figure, especially of one at least partially African-American, concerning their politics, lifestyle, or parenting, is completely off-limits in this matrix; especially when said public figure hasn't spotlighted his children on a national stage, approved photo and interview spreads in People Magazine, and let his daughter be interviewed on Access Hollywood. Oh...wait...


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#24768 - 12/27/09 11:16 AM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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I've been pretty busy the last few days, and haven't gotten on the board at all until now. As I read this thread, I don't really see any evidence of Iky being a racist. However, the thread itself is without a doubt, very judgemental, a trait rightfully condemned by Jesus.

I don't think from your first post that you were attempting to vilify Malia, but the poor parenting style of her parents. That, imho, is a backhanded way to talk about a kid. I've always felt that talking about a kid, and their shortcomings, is in poor taste, especially in a public forum such as this. As Funky pointed out, this can often be something a child, especially a girl, can be going through, and will either grow out of, or didn't have the ability to. The responsibility of the Obamas is to find out if there is something physically preventing her from standing straight. It is not my business, nor yours, nor anyone else's to find out if they have done that. With that in mind, what makes you think that they haven't?

I guess I get tired of people feeling that they have a right to talk about other people's kids. It's happening with the Obamas. It didn't happen so much with the Bush twins, even though they became adults while he was in office, and had a few run-ins. It happened A LOT with Chelsea Clinton (hmm, is there a party trend here?). I wasn't old enough for Amy Carter, but from what I understand, Billy deflected most of the attention.
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#24776 - 12/27/09 02:55 PM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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Read my post again. I didn't suggest you hate the Obamas. I suggested that you are a "knee jerk tool[s] of the emerging hate Obama industry".
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#24777 - 12/27/09 03:22 PM Re: It's painful [Re: harborknight]
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Originally Posted By: harborknight
It didn't happen so much with the Bush twins....



I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if the parenting skills of George and Laura Bush were "just something that has bugged" iky when the twins were busted with alcohol and someone else's ID?
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#24781 - 12/27/09 04:06 PM Re: It's painful [Re: harborknight]
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Originally Posted By: harborknight
I wasn't old enough for Amy Carter, but from what I understand, Billy deflected most of the attention.


He deflected some of the attention but there were still a lot of mean jokes about how ugly she was.
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#24782 - 12/27/09 04:08 PM Re: It's painful [Re: harborknight]
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It happened A LOT with Chelsea Clinton


Refresh me on that one. I don't remember any talk about Chelsea. None.

When you have a Bill Clinton to pick on, why would Republicans need to pick on a kid.

FWIW I didn't read any of the posts on Obama's daughter as being a slam either towards the girl or her parents. I have watched the clip and as far as I can see she walks like a kid, nothing more but I haven't got any experience with that sort of thing. Perhaps Iky does.
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#24783 - 12/27/09 04:18 PM Re: It's painful [Re: Bogus_bill]
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Here's two instances that I remember. There were many, many more. It was constant and almost always about her looks.

Quote:
On the June 10 edition of Fox News' Hannity, host Sean Hannity and conservative columnist Ann Coulter talked about David Letterman's references to Gov. Sarah Palin and her family, with Coulter claiming that "people didn't go after Chelsea Clinton." In fact, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) reportedly told a "joke" about Chelsea Clinton in 1998, saying, "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."


and

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On his TV show, early in the Clinton administration, Limbaugh put up a picture of Socks, the White House cat, and asked, 'Did you know there's a White House dog?' Then he put up a picture of Chelsea Clinton, who was 13 years old at the time and as far as I know had never done any harm to anyone.

When viewers objected, he claimed, in typical Limbaugh fashion, that the gag was an accident and that without his permission some technician had put up the picture of Chelsea -- which I found as disgusting as his original attempt at humor.

Source
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#24785 - 12/27/09 04:28 PM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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Malia's posture, a reasonable topic of conversation?

37 replies? Seriously?

Christ on a cracker!
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#24789 - 12/27/09 04:52 PM Re: It's painful [Re: funkycamper]
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And then there was the thing about the Sidwell Friends School, where your President's daughter (I mean in 1993, not today), goes to school, instead of a public school. Supposedly there was an 8th grade assignment, "Why I feel guilty for being white." The outrage over the indoctrination of a child.

And then, of course, what do you get when you cross a lying, cheating politician with a manipulative, crooked lawyer? Chelsea Clinton.
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#24989 - 12/29/09 07:38 PM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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Bigoted and proud you say?
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#24990 - 12/29/09 07:39 PM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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Touched a nerve I see.
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#25015 - 12/30/09 08:36 AM Re: It's painful [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak
Funky, if Malia is as stubborn and rebellious against authority as you, then the Obamas have my complete sympathy and I'll get off their case about it.


Ha! I am? Is this based on my refusal to play the submissive role in my marriage...a role that Mr. Funky doesn't even want me to play? Or what? Just curious as you would think I'd have a few arrests on my record for something if I was really all that rebellious or, at least, would have been in trouble as kid when I was often teacher's pet instead.

You're silly.
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#25150 - 01/01/10 11:20 AM Re: It's painful [Re: funkycamper]
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You're silly.


At times.

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