"Confirmed by pastors"? I'm a legally ordained minister of the Universal Life Church, Iky, so you should believe everything I say.

Yep. If a preacher said it, it must be so.

I'm not on a huge rejection and condemnation rant of casinos. I just understand where Glenn is coming from.

Nothing in God's word condemns them per se, so people (even Christians) are at liberty to choose whether or not to participate in their gambling and entertainment activities.

However, not everything that is lawful is also wise. Demons of greed and illicit lust do hang out there looking for an opportunity to afflict. People need to choose for themselves, wisely.



Define love...as God defines it.

God is love, and He commanded Jeremiah to root out, pull down, destroy, throw down, and then to build, and to plant.

Which part of that do you charge God and Jeremiah with not demonstrating love?



He gave that to me when I was on my knees in repentance crying out for God's salvation. Are you seeing much of that from posters on this board?

How did Christ deal with the stubborn and the stiff-necked unbelievers? Certainly not the same as those on their knees in repentance wanting and willing to believe and be saved.

Was Jesus not being loving when He told people that they could not understand Him and hear His word because the devil was their father? Was John not being loving when he told Herod that it was not lawful for him to have his brother's wife? Are you willing to charge either before God with arrogant, unloving, condemnation?

Perhaps you are being too quick to judge in condemnation.

Perhaps you judge in error.

Other than the fact that you make the distinction between belonging to a UMC with a name tag,
and being just an occasional visitor with a name tag, which part of my post is not true?

BTW, Christians are given NT instruction to not forsake the corporate worship assembly to honor God.
Jesus Christ did not forsake it, and neither did His disciples, and believers are to imitate them.
If you are a believer, then you are also instructed to regularly attend corporate worship.
Christianity isn't about how you feel (skittish).
Christianity is about obedience by faith, submission in and of love, the keeping of Christ's doctrine.

Well, I'm done here so I'll have more time to pick on ya now! So there, HA!

Agreed. I'm glad we found some common ground.

Reverend Bogus here, fellow legally ordained minister of the Universal Church at your service. If you want to issue a fatwa or perhaps need a rubber stamped opinion, let me know. My diploma is under a pile of papers here somewhere on my desk along with a letter of great importance from some banker in Nigeria about a fortune awaiting me.

I can't and don't want to log on here enough to follow everyone's religious and political beliefs so I have no idea who I'm supporting or dissing with this comment. But I do believe in profiling and think those who don't take advantage of their eyes, ears and common sense in situations where safety is concerned are asinine. Granted, it should just be one part of a judgment, but it should be a part.

Wow, just read through this thread and ... I am all for respecting others religious beliefs ... but some of the rambling non sequitur here is a little disturbing, like a Dr. Bronner's soap bottle but not in a good way. The words fervent and creepy come to mind, among others. Just sayin' ... like this quote from above:

"However, too many "believers" cling to the biblical kumbaya passages and reject Christ's instruction to judge with righteous judgment ..."

Exactly what does this mean? What message are you sending? Replace the word "Christ" with Allah and what would be your reaction? Maybe I'm just having a hard time discerning the context.

Excellent question.