#25385 - 01/06/10 11:20 PM
Re: Nissan’s Leaf Ushers In the Electric Era
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Woot! Love the navigator screen with a circle on the maps that gets smaller as your range decreases and the trackball-like stick shift. I'd be in line if I could afford a car for strictly around town driving.
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#25393 - 01/07/10 08:29 AM
Re: Nissan’s Leaf Ushers In the Electric Era
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Leasing the batteries?
They say that the cost to charge the batteries combined with the price of their lease "won't be more than you'd otherwise spend on gas".
If it costs the same to operate as a gas car, then what's the point? Also, the buyer's taking a significant risk that the manufacturer will continue to make batteries available.
I'm glad that I don't need to by fuel for my Oldsmobile from the manufacturer.
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#25396 - 01/07/10 09:05 AM
Re: Nissan’s Leaf Ushers In the Electric Era
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Nissan. Ushering in the electric era 100 miles at a time.
Good one.
Pass.
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#25398 - 01/07/10 09:22 AM
Re: Nissan’s Leaf Ushers In the Electric Era
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Don't get me wrong, I think it's cool as heck, but short sighted business decisions are getting in the way.
GM's EV-1 was built 20 years ago and had equal perfomance to the Leaf. Sadly, someone is sitting on the battery patent preventing its manufacture.
Meanwhile, lithium phosphate battery technology is perfectly capable of filling that gap, but since the only people in the world who build stuff are the chinese, and they are completely incapable of guaranteeing quality, progress languishes.
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#25399 - 01/07/10 09:31 AM
Re: Nissan’s Leaf Ushers In the Electric Era
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Bolivia, with the greatest lithium reserves in the world, is undertaking development of the resource, eventually including a battery manufacturing facility.
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#25415 - 01/07/10 05:53 PM
Re: Nissan’s Leaf Ushers In the Electric Era
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Actually, while I usually oppose the idea of leasing items, especially cars, I thought leasing the batteries made sense. If technology improved the year after I got the car allowing for 300 mile charges, I'd sure love the convenience of exchanging my 100 battery for a 300 battery. Of course, this totally depends on the cost of leasing. It would have to be cheap to make sense.
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#25421 - 01/07/10 06:08 PM
Re: Nissan’s Leaf Ushers In the Electric Era
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Battery lease projected to be about $150 a month.
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#25436 - 01/07/10 09:01 PM
Re: Nissan’s Leaf Ushers In the Electric Era
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Actually, while I usually oppose the idea of leasing items, especially cars, I thought leasing the batteries made sense. If technology improved the year after I got the car allowing for 300 mile charges, I'd sure love the convenience of exchanging my 100 battery for a 300 battery. Of course, this totally depends on the cost of leasing. It would have to be cheap to make sense. An equally likely scenario is that three years after the car's introduction, they discontinue production due to lackluster sales. The new battery lease terms offered to the existing owners is $450/month.
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#25438 - 01/07/10 09:47 PM
Re: Nissan’s Leaf Ushers In the Electric Era
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So it's gone up that much in three months? The electric car only makes sense if everyone can benefit. It must be for the customer at the same price as his gasoline equivalent in particular thanks to government aid. The battery will be leased for just under 100 euros ($150USD) per month. The cost of electricity consumption and the leasing of the battery will be lower than the cost of gasoline. (translated from french)
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