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#28035 - 03/31/10 03:09 PM Re: Open letter to Teabaggers [Re: funkycamper]
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Originally Posted By: funkycamper
No. Not worth it.


Actually, I was hoping you would post them, too, if you've got them.
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#28036 - 03/31/10 03:14 PM Re: Open letter to Teabaggers [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak


Had you written it, you would have shown yourself to be as ignorant as the author.


And the President was born in Kenya, the best way to help someone is toss them out in the street and hope someone else picks up the slack, and Jesus was a warmonger who approved of violence and considered war "necessary."

We've been through and shot down every one of your delusions already, Iky.

Originally Posted By: ikayak
Conservatives make less money and pay more in taxes than liberals, yet outgive liberals by 30%.


B.S.

"(S)o-called "blue states" tend to be high-income areas that pay the vast majority of federal taxes. Some 84 percent of federal individual income taxes—which account for over 40 percent of federal revenue—are paid by the those in the top 25 percent of the income distribution. The majority of these taxpayers live in wealthy, urban, politically "blue" areas like New York, California, and Massachusetts.

Even if federal spending were equal in all states, wealthy states would still send substantially more federal tax dollars to Washington than they received in spending, simply because they earn a majority of the nation's income. This disparity is greatly magnified by the progressive rate structure of the federal income tax, which taxes higher income states more heavily than low-income states, regardless of the level of spending received."


http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/1397.html

...and sending Pat Robertson money doesn't count as "charitable giving."


Originally Posted By: ikayak

Conservatives are more honest and ethical than liberals.


I'd respond but I'm laughing too hard.

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#28039 - 03/31/10 03:28 PM Re: Open letter to Teabaggers [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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Originally Posted By: Beavis H. Christ


...and sending Pat Robertson money doesn't count as "charitable giving."


It shouldn't, but it does. But, charitable by no means indicates intelligent.

Originally Posted By: ikayak

Conservatives are more honest and ethical than liberals.


Originally Posted By: Beavis H. Christ

I'd respond but I'm laughing too hard.


Yeah. Wow. Where to even start... I think you've got the right idea on this one, Beavis.
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#28046 - 03/31/10 07:20 PM Re: Open letter to Teabaggers [Re: mdean]
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Originally Posted By: mdean
Yeah. Wow. Where to even start... I think you've got the right idea on this one, Beavis.


Hey Mikey...you should contact the Pew Research Center and tell them they can skip all of the pesky data gathering and analysis and save a ton of time and load of money by just calling you and the Beaverage for your opinions. Who knew?
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#28047 - 03/31/10 07:43 PM Re: Open letter to Teabaggers [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak


Hey Mikey...you should contact the Pew Research Center and tell them they can skip all of the pesky data gathering and analysis and save a ton of time and load of money by just calling you and the Beaverage for your opinions. Who knew?


Pew did a study that concluded that "conservatives are more honest and ethical than liberals"?

Do you even know what is going on the screen when you start typing, or do the voices in your head decide?

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#28049 - 03/31/10 08:33 PM Re: Open letter to Teabaggers [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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Do you ever actually read the links that I post,
or do you automatically just start spewing ignorance from your keyboard?
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#28060 - 04/01/10 09:20 AM Re: Open letter to Teabaggers [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak
Hey Mikey...you should contact the Pew Research Center and tell them they can skip all of the pesky data gathering and analysis and save a ton of time and load of money by just calling you and the Beaverage for your opinions. Who knew?


Nah, we have enough people out of work. However, I'd be happy to point out the humor in their studies and the obvious holes. Such as, well, consider the questions:

Is it:
-OK to cheat on your taxes?
-“morally wrong” to cheat Uncle Sam,
-all right to get welfare benefits you didn’t deserve.
-OK to buy goods that you know are stolen.
-OK to drink a can of soda in a store without paying for it
-OK to avoid the truth while negotiating the price of a car.

They don't ask if the people had done or would do those things, only if it was right or wrong. They don't include the people that would do it under dire enough conditions. Or those who would do it if they thought they wouldn't get caught. And the big intangible, how many of the people were answering honestly?

There is so much more that goes into a person's character than a few simple 'right or wrong' questions. It is entirely possible to do the "right" thing for all the wrong reasons.

The questions are valid. The answers are valid. The conclusion, based on those questions and answers, is incomplete, invalid, rash, presumptuous, arrogant, and downright foolish. Subscribing to it is even worse.

But hey, let 'em do their polls, I don't care. And this isn't the first time I've seen those claims, either. I've seen the same studies listed by other conservatives who enjoyed the inference of superiority. I got a chuckle then, too.
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#28061 - 04/01/10 09:31 AM Re: Open letter to Teabaggers [Re: mdean]
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As I said, you could be a boon to Pew Research. Our own government uses their research to help form policy. You could actually have an impact on American society.
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#28062 - 04/01/10 10:12 AM Re: Open letter to Teabaggers [Re: mdean]
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Originally Posted By: funkycamper
No. Not worth it.


Actually, I was hoping you would post them, too, if you've got them.


I don't have them. I'd have to research them out and I'm not all that interested in the topic to spend time doing that. And I just think you only need to turn on the TV to see the flaws in the research presented.
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#28063 - 04/01/10 10:21 AM Re: Open letter to Teabaggers [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak

As I said, you could be a boon to Pew Research. Our own government uses their research to help form policy. You could actually have an impact on American society.


Our government? The government that never gets it wrong? The same government you criticize, too?

More empty validation.

Not to mention it was the author, not PEW Research, that arrived at the unfounded conclusion. He said, "Pew Research asked whether it was..." If you put on your critical thinking cap and apply all of your superior conservative reading comprehension skills, you'll notice he never says "PEW Research has concluded..." He reaches the outcome on his own.

Now, if you review closely you'll see I take exception with the empty conclusion, not the polls.

So you can put your snide away, it's not working, it proves only your lack of a reasonable argument, and the condescending manner with which you deliver it looks ridiculous, as you attempt to look down your nose at something so clearly over your head.
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