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#29070 - 05/13/10 07:17 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: Turnow]
ikayak Offline
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You're delusional...again.
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#29072 - 05/13/10 07:32 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: ikayak]
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You're delusional...again.


I love it how you always stick to the "high road".
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#29073 - 05/13/10 07:48 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: Turnow]
ikayak Offline
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Just stating a fact.
Here I am, thousands of miles away from you, enjoying my roast dinner and Black Russian and watching The Daily Show...
and you assert that I'm "lathered up".
You are delusional.
I couldn't be more relaxed.

You also were deluded in asserting that I didn't know the meaning of the Preamble text...which I did, and may I point out, you obviously didn't...

so, as I said, just stating fact.
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#29075 - 05/13/10 09:08 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: ikayak]
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I'll try to bring it back to present day. Our founding fathers grew and most likely smoked pot, the boarders weren't overrun with drug smuggling, and, amazingly, our country didn't fall apart.

It seems like when we tried to control it's production and use, we then decided to spent untold amounts of money to control these ends. We, we, we.

I'm glad you are enjoying your drink, why on earth would it matter to you what I want to do to enjoy my evening? We created this mess, Mexico didn't.

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#29076 - 05/13/10 09:58 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: MonteMark]
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why on earth would it matter to you what I want to do to enjoy my evening?


If you are coming after my family, my friends, my dog, or myself to cause any of us harm, whether or not for your evening enjoyment, it might matter a great deal to me.
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#29077 - 05/13/10 10:03 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: MonteMark]
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Originally Posted By: MonteMark
We created this mess, Mexico didn't.


Oh oh! He WE go again with another Wee We diatribe. smile
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#29078 - 05/13/10 10:17 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: Stash]
ikayak Offline
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Yeah...I'm not playing the "we-we" blame game when 90% of the "we" don't contribute to "the mess."
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#29081 - 05/13/10 10:50 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: ikayak]
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Unless you mean outlawing a bunch of drugs and then creating more powerful drugs for people to get hooked on. That was our U.S. government. Created by We the People. Governed with the consent of the governed. This is a problem that we, collectively, contribute to, not just the 10% or whatever that are using. BTW, I was the one that pointed out the founding fathers were users. Beavis elaborated, and Turnow explained the point beautifully.
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#29082 - 05/13/10 10:55 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: harborknight]
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By the way, I am no advocate for drug use, but it seems odd that so little time passed after the failure of prohibition that we looked for something else to ban.

Interestingly, one of the few videos that can be watched longer than 10 minutes on YouTube is Reefer Madness, one of the main pieces of propoganda that led to the marijuana prohibition:

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#29090 - 05/14/10 12:14 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: harborknight]
ikayak Offline
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Originally Posted By: harborknight
Unless you mean outlawing a bunch of drugs and then creating more powerful drugs for people to get hooked on. That was our U.S. government. Created by We the People. Governed with the consent of the governed. This is a problem that we, collectively, contribute to, not just the 10% or whatever that are using. BTW, I was the one that pointed out the founding fathers were users. Beavis elaborated, and Turnow explained the point beautifully.


Well hey, since "we" can't put all the drugs back into Pandora's Box,
"we" should rescind all drug laws.
"Problem" solved.

And any drug use by the founding fathers still has nothing to do with AZ HB 2162 or the Constitution.
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