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#29634 - 06/12/10 01:20 AM Re: Response to Beavis Matt 25:40 [Re: ikayak]
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No. But those who crucified Christ also crucified others. It's not like they were innocents. Yet Christ prayed for them. Interesting contrast, that's all.
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#29639 - 06/12/10 07:34 AM Re: Response to Beavis Matt 25:40 [Re: funkycamper]
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No one except Jesus Christ who has walked the face of the earth is innocent.

It was a special circumstance because the truth had been hidden from them. In John 17:9 (right before He was taken away by the Roman soldiers) Jesus makes it clear that He is praying only for those God has given Him and not for the world.

I agree. It's all very interesting.

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#29641 - 06/12/10 07:41 AM Re: Response to Beavis Matt 25:40 [Re: ikayak]
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Yes, but I have a feeling we find different aspects interesting.
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#29645 - 06/12/10 08:59 AM Re: Response to Beavis Matt 25:40 [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak

So yes, Jesus prayed for them to be forgiven the act because they did not know what they were doing at the time. It was only fair, don't you think?



Jesus prayed for them to be forgiven...for fulfilling prophecy? Not for torturing him? If mental gymnastics were a sport, you'd be Olympic-caliber.

lmao

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#29648 - 06/12/10 10:09 AM Re: Response to Beavis Matt 25:40 [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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And if reading comprehension was a requirement for physical life, you'd be dead.


Originally Posted By: ikayak
Jesus prayed for them to be forgiven the act because they did not know what they were doing at the time.


God had hidden from them who they were crucifying, until after Jesus had expired on the Cross.

Mat 27:54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

No one believes Jesus is the Son of God until God chooses to reveal it to them. (Matthew 16:16-17)

Obviously God has so far chosen to leave you out of the loop.

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#29649 - 06/12/10 10:18 AM Re: Response to Beavis Matt 25:40 [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak

God had hidden from them who they were crucifying, until after Jesus had expired on the Cross.




Ah. So they didn't need to be forgiven for torturing?

You are one sick puppy, dude.

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#29652 - 06/12/10 02:58 PM Re: Response to Beavis Matt 25:40 [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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Hey, Beav...

Originally Posted By: Ikayak
Obviously God has so far chosen to leave you out of the loop.


You need a God Helmet!
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