I will bold and enlarge the part of your post you need to take note of:






Here, let me help you out: you skipped right over the words "MY BRETHREN".


So who are Christ's brethren?

Matthew 12:48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?

Matthew 12:49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.



And what is the will of Jesus' Father?

John 6:40 For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.



So is KSM Christ's brethren? Obviously not.



And oh, btw, do not insult Jesus by calling him a Buddha.

After your Buddha buddy died, he was fire fried into ashes, never to physically return to earth.

Jesus on the other hand, died, rose from the grave, started a fire, and fried fish for his brethren.

*yawn*

If you really must rationalize your own blood thirst, go for it. Jesus, on the other hand, was not a torturer or an advocate of. In fact, he died from it.



Highest possible compliment, actually. Although technically Jesus was a Bodhisattva, as opposed to a mere Buddha, so I'll try and be more specific.



lmao

10,000 Buddhas have appeared at least, and every one of us--even you, Iky--harbors the potential to be one.

There is, for example, the story of Angulimala, the serial killer who--after encountering Buddha and hearing the Dharma--became a Buddha himself.

I don't picture you as wearing a necklace of fingers, as Angulimala was when he encountered Buddha--more cowering in a darkened room eating Cheetos and twizzling your tweeter while watching torture porn--but even you are not beyond hope.

Yawn all you want.
The fact is that Jesus identified His "brethren" as His disciples and KSM does not make the cut.
Neither do you for that matter.
But as long you're alive here on earth, there's still hope for you.



Neither your Buddhas nor Bodhisattvas physically die then physically rise from the grave and cook fish for their disciples. Jesus did. (John 21)

Neither will your Buddhas and Bodhisattvas judge people and cast those who did not trust in them for salvation from sin and death into eternal torture. Jesus will.

Matthew 25: 31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

And your Buddhas and Bodhisattvas did not create the universe. Jesus did. (John 1:3)

The fact is that you are taking individual words out of context and using them to justify your own blood lust.

The whole series of verses goes like this:

25:37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
25:38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
25:39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

So if I am to follow your logic here, the only people in the world who are supposed to feed the hungry, give water to the thirsty, clothe the naked, etc. are the actual disciples of Jesus? Jesus is NOT, according to you, advocating universal charity here?

Eliminate the words "my brethren," and the message is still the same--"Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me." Jesus is clearly saying "show kindness and give aid to those who need it and it will be as if you gave aid and kindness to me."

Is torture "kindness"? Does the admonition to love your enemies include only people it is convenient to like? Did the man who died under the most extreme of tortures really, truly think torture is acceptable under any circumstances?

Acknowledging the religious hooey, isn't it written "give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's"?

Besides paying taxes, I think the authors were intending to instruct the masses to follow Ceaser's laws. The law is "Thou shalt not torture." By international standards... agreed to by America (our "Caesar"), waterboarding is torture.

A lesson in Holy Bible exegesis:

First of all, you don't "eliminate" any word that Jesus spoke.

Second:

Who is Jesus speaking to?
His disciples. (Matthew 24:1-2 and 26:1)

Teaching what?
The signs of His Second coming and the end of the world. (Matthew 24:3)

When did He teach this?
Two days before Passover right before His crucifixion. (Matthew 26:2)

Where did His teach this?
On the Mt. of Olives. (Mtthew 24:3)


Now, take a look at the very first verse you posted:


25:37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

Who are "the righteous", Beavis?

Those in right-standing with God through faith.

Jesus tells you in previous verses 33 and 34:
His sheep He has placed at His right hand.

The correct exegesis of those verses you keep posting is:

Jesus telling His disciples/brethren
when His disciples/brethren care for "the least" (like the beggar Lazarus in Luke 16:20)
His disciples/brethren are, in effect, caring for Him.




Well, let's look at that "any circumstance" thing you speak of.

How about the circumstance of torture and murder of pre-born babies?
The average pre-born baby age of George Tiller's innocent victims was 27 weeks.
You think Jesus would approve of the torture and murder of pre-born babies?

I don't, but we will know for certain when He returns, won't we?

But just what kind of twisted logic condemns the limited water-boarding of an evil, confessed torturer and killer for information that may save countless innocent lives, but advocates for the torture and murder of countless viable, pre-born, innocent babies?

At any rate, we know that Jesus approves of the eternal torture of those who have not submitted to Him on earth as Lord and Savior. (Matthew 25:41)

Be warned, Beavis, and do not be deceived!

There's that reading comprehension problem again.



Okay. So in Iky Christianity, nobody is ever supposed to show any kindness to a stranger, ever, except the disciples of Jesus, and they've all been dead for 2,000 years. Which explains a lot of your philosophy, frankly.




Thus confirming what I just said. Jesus wants you to care for everyone, because in showing them kindness you are showing HIM kindness. Iky Jesus, on the other hand, says only 12 guys he was speaking to directly at that time need follow such a rule, and nobody else.



Oh, let's DO. But can we do so without changing the subject and avoiding the question?



I guess not. Game over!

Beavis, Jesus Christ is teaching that His disciples/brethren are to care for His disciples/brethren.

Those are His words in the scripture you cited. Period.

When His disciples/brethren care for other disciples/brethren they are caring for Him because His disciples/brethren constitute His Body, the Body of Christ, because He lives in us and we live in Him.

His disciples are those who follow Him.
A disciple of Christ is one who (1) believes his doctrine, (2) rests on his sacrifice, (3) imbibes his spirit, and (4) imitates his example (Mat 10:24; Luk 14:26,27,33; Jhn 6:69).

Obviously, Christ has disciples/brethren on earth today.

KSM is not a member of Christ's Body, so showing kindness to KSM is NOT in effect, showing kindness to Christ. Christ does not live in KSM and KSM does not live in Christ.

Unless God has mercy upon him and gives him the gift of saving faith, KSM is toast. Figuratively and literally. And even that does not excuse him from reaping on earth what he has sown on earth.

Btw, he hasn't been waterboarded for over 5 years. Write letters to someone who cares or let it go.

Yep. Same words that you can't seem to get through your head no matter how thoroughly and carefully they are explained to you.



Nobody's sent any Jews to the gas chambers since 1945. I guess we should let that go, too?

I could go through your posts "eliminating words" as you suggest we do with Christ's, and change your meaning, too.

Point out to me in Matthew 25 where Jesus speaks to caring for His non-brethren.




No, we should hang on to every flippin' atrocity ever committed against any man, woman, and child since the world began, because it does so much damn good and prevents so many more atrocities and wars against humanity.

We should be like an ulgy old dog with a nasty bone about them and post and post and post about them on every public message board in cyber existence until our fingers bleed, because it does so much damn good and prevents so many more atrocities and wars against humanity.

Or we should do it because it gives us perverse pleasure in stirring and re-stirring and re-stirring the same tired old proverbial pot.