#38984 - 11/02/11 10:17 PM
Re: PUD v Spradlin
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H. The PUD stopped paying its invoices when FEMA denied reimbursement. ....................................................... 16 It is my understanding that no invoices were submitted by the PUD to FEMA. There may (I have no idea) have been a conversation in which someone said, "FEMA won't pay these without more information." But, the PUD never submitted invoices from this contractor to FEMA as the PUD felt the invoices were in error and it would have been inappropriate to submit them.
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#38985 - 11/02/11 10:20 PM
Re: PUD v Spradlin
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Another bummer from this verdict is we will be longer without power the next big storm because the PUD can't just tell its contractors go fix the problem and we will settle up when the time is right. Much truth here. As Brit has been requesting, understandably and appropriately, all the paperwork will be completed before any private contractors are dispatched in a future situation. Public entities, of course, already have mutual aid agreements in place.
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#38987 - 11/02/11 11:18 PM
Re: PUD v Spradlin
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Did any of this go to Spradlin? October 6, 2009
Grays Harbor PUD to Receive Nearly 4.5 Million Dollar Reimbursement From December Storm Response from FEMA and other sources
Aberdeen, WA - The Grays Harbor Public Utility District (PUD) today said the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has agreed to reimburse Grays Harbor almost $4 million paid to contractors who restored power and conducted emergency repairs to its electrical infrastructure caused by the destructive December 2, 2007 storm. In addition, the FEMA approval paves the way for the PUD to receive another $639,000 in State emergency funds that were contingent on FEMA’s approval of the District’s appeal, bringing the total to more than $4.4 million dollars. http://kbkw.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=960
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#38988 - 11/03/11 08:17 AM
Re: PUD v Spradlin
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I read in the paper that the PUD had been paid by FEMA for some invoices. As I had been under the impression no invoices were submitted, I asked. It was confirmed that some went to FEMA, but they had not been submitted by the PUD. The FEMA Auditor when on-site came across a couple small invoices and included them and, consequently sent some small payment (small meaning like $150,000 or so). But, the PUD had not submitted any of the invoices. The PUD has paid some $2.3 million so far.
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#38989 - 11/03/11 09:03 AM
Re: PUD v Spradlin
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all the paperwork will be completed before any private contractors are dispatched in a future situation. Before they're dispatched or before the next storm? We know there's going to be a storm, we know there's going to be damage. Agreements should be worked out now, not after 5 PM, on a weekend, in the dark.
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#39004 - 11/03/11 04:54 PM
Re: PUD v Spradlin
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[quote]Another bummer from this verdict is we will be longer without power the next big storm because the PUD can't just tell its contractors go fix the problem and we will settle up when the time is right. Much truth here. As Brit has been requesting, understandably and appropriately, all the paperwork will be completed before any private contractors are dispatched in a future situation. Public entities, of course, already have mutual aid agreements in place. [/quote Is there something preventing the PUD from having mutual aid agreements in place similar to those of the public entities?
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#39005 - 11/03/11 05:10 PM
Re: PUD v Spradlin
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Another bummer from this verdict is we will be longer without power the next big storm because the PUD can't just tell its contractors go fix the problem and we will settle up when the time is right. Much truth here. As Brit has been requesting, understandably and appropriately, all the paperwork will be completed before any private contractors are dispatched in a future situation. Public entities, of course, already have mutual aid agreements in place. Is there something preventing the PUD from having mutual aid agreements in place similar to those of the public entities? I think he's indicating that other public entities (such as the county) already have mutual aid agreements so they'd be the top number on the speed dial in case of emergency.
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#39006 - 11/03/11 05:21 PM
Re: PUD v Spradlin
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Welcome aboard.
Spradlins have had a rough go of it financially in recent years. The storm came and they found their own bailout, the rate payers. It was profiteering on their part, foolishness for not having better trained people on the PUD's part and an expensive lesson for all of us.
All of this is in the past. My question to the PUD: Do we have better people or procedures in place so that this never happens again?
I hope the Spradlin family chokes on their money. Bogus, have I missed a response to your question about actions PUD has taken as to now having in place better people and better procedures? I believe Stash has responded to a prior comment to say that improved procedures are now in place, but I don't believe you have an answer yet as to whether better people are now in place. I had assumed all along that those responsible would have been dealt with quite some time ago, but I believe your question is valid to assure the ratepayers that appropriate action has been taken by top management, and that the replacement(s) have been fully trained and made aware of the importance of fulfilling their duties even during emergency situations. If no such actions regarding responsible personnel have been taken, then I would certainly question why the General Manager has been so lax, and why the PUD commissioners have not required the General Manager to do so.
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#39008 - 11/03/11 06:03 PM
Re: PUD v Spradlin
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I think he's indicating that other public entities (such as the county) already have mutual aid agreements so they'd be the top number on the speed dial in case of emergency. I meant with other PUDs. Crews from all over this state and from out of state came and worked. There were already procedures in place. There were no problems with any of the public entities OR with any other private entities. Only one tripled rates and created new rate catagories never before charged like the $98 per hour bookkeeper (16 hours a day 7days a week... thank you PUD Ratepayers!).
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#39010 - 11/03/11 06:31 PM
Re: PUD v Spradlin
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I think the PUD bills should have a new line saying "$__ went to pay Spradlin".
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