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#28975 - 05/09/10 07:19 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: Bogus_bill]
Beavis H. Christ Offline
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"In defending my borders against the Mexican, I am doing the work of the Lord" to paraphrase another famous fascist.

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#28976 - 05/09/10 07:41 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: MonteMark]
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This would so much more fun if it was an "us" issue. Our companies and individuals are hiring people who are not legal. If you manage hiring, you manage most of the issues discussed, but we want cheap everything, clothing, food, floral products, etc. We want the individuals who pick our crops, but not the ones who move next door.

Get pissed off about the violence regarding drug trafficking. We are the consumers. We are the country that has the ineffective laws regarding drug use. We are supplying the weapons that kill each other and the Mexicans living along the border who are trying to deal with our dung.

We are the ones who created this mess, but it's a whole lot easier to point fingers. We don't need to deal with "them," we need to fix us.


I think you're exactly right.
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#28978 - 05/09/10 10:03 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: Turnow]
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Get pissed off about the violence regarding drug trafficking. We are the consumers. We are the country that has the ineffective laws regarding drug use. We are supplying the weapons that kill each other and the Mexicans living along the border who are trying to deal with our dung.


According to the CDC, less than 10% of our population uses illicit drugs. Does less than 10% really qualify as "we?"
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#28980 - 05/10/10 06:20 AM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: ikayak]
Turnow Offline
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Get pissed off about the violence regarding drug trafficking. We are the consumers. We are the country that has the ineffective laws regarding drug use. We are supplying the weapons that kill each other and the Mexicans living along the border who are trying to deal with our dung.


According to the CDC, less than 10% of our population uses illicit drugs. Does less than 10% really qualify as "we?"


Yes. "We the people of the United States, in order...." and etc.

That was perhaps your silliest nitpick ever.
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#28999 - 05/10/10 05:26 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak
According to the CDC, less than 10% of our population uses illicit drugs. Does less than 10% really qualify as "we?"

Really?? So the threshold is more than 30 million. Is it 50 million? Or, do it need to reach the magic 150+ million to earn "we" status?

I can't believe I haven't thought of this earlier. This makes everything easy.
Million abortions a year - may rise to a you issue, but not a we;
3 thousand 9/11 deaths - not a we status issue at all;
.5 million cancer deaths - who cares; and
57K breast cancer deaths - let them eat cake

This is shear brilliance.

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#29005 - 05/10/10 06:55 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: MonteMark]
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I can't believe I haven't thought of this earlier. This makes everything easy.
Million abortions a year - may rise to a you issue, but not a we;
3 thousand 9/11 deaths - not a we status issue at all;
.5 million cancer deaths - who cares; and
57K breast cancer deaths - let them eat cake


I wish I would have thought of that.

Brilliant. Cudos to you.
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#29012 - 05/10/10 09:58 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: Turnow]
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"We the people of the United States, in order...." defines the powers of the government as originating from the people of the United States.

And originally, that excluded the "non-free."

"We the People" is not a group blame dumping ground for drug crimes practiced by a minority of those inhabiting the United States.
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#29016 - 05/11/10 07:44 AM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: ikayak]
Beavis H. Christ Offline
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Originally Posted By: ikayak

"We the people of the United States, in order...." defines the powers of the government as originating from the people of the United States.

And originally, that excluded the "non-free."

"We the People" is not a group blame dumping ground for drug crimes practiced by a minority of those inhabiting the United States.



So now people with drug problems aren't Americans? Hey, there's a concept. I say we start with people who have brain damage...which has been scientifically proven to cause fundamentalist Christian beliefs.

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#29017 - 05/11/10 12:44 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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Why don't you stop misrepresenting what I post?
Hey, there's a concept!
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#29018 - 05/11/10 01:05 PM Re: Defending the Constitution? [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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They should be stripped of their citizenship and sent packing.
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