Playing the sanctimony and lack-of-credibility card in defense of Beavis on this issue is laughable.

There's absolutely no justified righteousness or credibility in continually bitching and moaning about the high cost of health care and a couple years less in life expectancy, while indulging in a huge contributing factor to those stats, expecting others to fix it while giving you a poor-me pass.

And that's not sanctimony, that's just the truth.

If "morality" and accountability do not start with each individual, feel free to explain to me where you believe they do start.

Since when have I asked for a "pass" on anything, you self-righteous piece of sh&t?

One of my oldest friends recently had an aortic aneurysm and almost died. He's had the condition since childhood--it's a congenital birth defect. He's a small business owner and couldn't afford health insurance, and now may lose his business because he has a quarter-million dollars in medical bills.

This never happens in Japan. It never happens in any of the civilized places where societies have decided that they are, in fact, their brothers' keepers.

Your reaction to my posts is typically mean-spirited and petty. Unlike you, I don't have to be personally experiencing a problem in order to see that it needs fixing for the good of all of us.

And yeah, I know, this is not in the flame pit, but you can go f*^k yourself, buddy. You and your ersatz, "I got mine so everybody else screw off" mentality is the heart of the poison that has been killing the American Dream for the last 30 years.

When you claim to be a victim as you have in this thread.




Since he's had the condition from birth, I presume as an adult he knew the risks of aneurysm and made his choices accordingly. In Japan he might very well be dead, as many emergency patients are turned away from Japan's hospitals.

Japan's having a healthcare crisis, Beavis. Their numbers of doctors and nurses are at the low end of the scale for developed countries. Their hospitals and ED's are overcrowded. The president of their Health Policy Institute has said that they don't expect to see a positive change for at least a decade.

Wow. I think any further discussion is useless. Your sanctimony and lack of empathy just get in the way.

By all means, let's just look the other way, sing kumbayah, drink the kool-aid, and not talk hard facts about the choices we make.

Let's pretend that if people would concentrate on changing the destructive choices they are making in their own lives which contribute to a national problem, rather than how the wealthy are screwing them over, the result would be just a whole lot more egocentric people, and not a stronger, healthier nation.

wooflippin'hoo.

You want the truth?
You can't handle the truth.

Climb off your soap box and start your education. You might start by reading "Nickled and Dimed". Although I doubt it would make a dent in your "perfect" noggin' or stone-cold heart.

My parents were born to the hard working poor.
My parents were the working poor during most of my childhood.
We raised our own children when we were the working poor.
I don't need to read about it to know what's it's like and remember how gut-wrenching it was at times.

Did Ehrenreich choose to stay in her minimum wage life,
or did she return to what she describes as her "actual social class"?

Who wouldn't? But that's not really the point, is it?

Yes, you're perfect and amazing. We know. We know. <sigh>

What IS your point, Funky?

Whenever the discussion turns to the cold-hard facts about the decisions that we make, it is the right, and the Republicans, and the Tea Partiers that scream that the Obamas and the liberals and the progressives want to take over their lives. To deny their freedoms, their lifestyle choices, their god-given rights.

A healthier food supply, active lifestyles, and personal responsibility would go a long way to reducing our burden on society for health care costs. Who is advocating that approach? When someone like 'Kitty' Mady comments about the chemicals in our food supply, she is mocked. When fast food restaurants are required to post calories on their menus, it's the 'Nanny State' at work.

That's where the credibility goes out the window. Refusing to work on the solution, working to prevent anyone else from working on the solution, like the Republican Party is doing, is the biggest part of the problem.