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#30842 - 08/14/10 03:41 PM Obama and the Mosque
Bogus_bill Offline
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Obama is right. This country is based on religious freedom. Nevertheless he is a stupid @##%@ for even taking on this subject.

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“I would prefer the president be a little more of a politician and a little less of a college professor,” former Rep. Martin Frost (D-Tex.), who once ran the House Democratic campaign arm, wrote in POLITICO’s Arena. “While a defensible position, it will not play well in the parts of the country where Democrats need the most help.”

Democratic aides say that, at the very least, the president has again knocked his party's candidates off local messages and forced them to talk about a national issue that doesn't appear likely to play well with important swing voters.

"The main reaction is 'Why? Why now?’" said one House Democratic leadership aide. "It's just another day off message. There have been a lot of days off message."

The chief of staff to one politically vulnerable House Democrat said it "probably alienates a lot of independent voters" and "it's not a good issue to be talking about right now."

He said he suspects "there are a lot of (Democrats) who are spooked in tough districts today" and "a lot of Republicans licking their chops right now."


Our president can sure talk. It is shutting up he cannot do. The Republicans are celebrating.

"Muslims build mosques at the sites of their victories."

Powerful stuff in an election year.

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#30843 - 08/14/10 03:45 PM Re: Obama and the Mosque [Re: Bogus_bill]
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Most of those who cannot see that all religions are equal, and have a right to worship and build their temples to worship and that no "religion" took down those towers, build a radical ideology did, would never have voted for Obama anyway.

Did he need to take this on? Probably not. But, ducking the tough stuff hasn't seemed to have been his style.
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#30846 - 08/14/10 06:56 PM Re: Obama and the Mosque [Re: Bogus_bill]
Wally B Online   content
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Originally Posted By: Bogus_bill
"Muslims build mosques at the sites of their victories."



Like this one?


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#30848 - 08/14/10 07:16 PM Re: Obama and the Mosque [Re: Wally B]
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Like this one?


The quote came from a sign one of the protesters was carrying at the mosque site.

Nice looking mosque though.

The original story: link

The whole quote was: Muslim builds mosques at the site of conquests and victories.
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#30851 - 08/14/10 09:02 PM Re: Obama and the Mosque [Re: Bogus_bill]
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As far as I'm concerned, B.O. can keep yakking until the polls close 11.06.12.
The more he "lectures", the more people he P.O..
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#30852 - 08/15/10 06:31 AM Re: Obama and the Mosque [Re: ikayak]
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As a Republican from wayyyy back I can only say that they are not the people I would vote for unless I had to. I am hoping that party is going to change so I can be a Republican again.

What is going to happen, I believe, is that the Republicans are going to win back enough seats where they will finally have some say on what gets passed. That will force cooperation between parties or we will have to wait two years to make more changes.



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#30853 - 08/15/10 07:47 AM Re: Obama and the Mosque [Re: Bogus_bill]
ikayak Offline
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Having been a Democrat wayyyy back, and working for my share of Democratic candidates, they are usually not the people I've voted for the past couple decades. As a Christian, Democrats have a couple ideological positions that I abhor.

I like the Republican values platform, but having been adamantly opposed to Nixon on a personal and political level, and many policies of Reagan, 41 and 43, as well as their staff and a few particular R-senators, I cannot be a Republican.

As far as I'm concerned, the a$$es suck wind and so do the elephants. Good times.

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#30857 - 08/15/10 09:29 AM Re: Obama and the Mosque [Re: Bogus_bill]
Beavis H. Christ Offline
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Originally Posted By: Bogus_bill

Our president can sure talk. It is shutting up he cannot do. The Republicans are celebrating.



...because, God forbid, an American president defend actual American values.

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#30858 - 08/15/10 09:51 AM Re: Obama and the Mosque [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
Bogus_bill Offline
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God forbid, an American president defend actual American values.


He can. Republicans are delighted that he chooses to so close to an election. Every bit helps.
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#30859 - 08/15/10 09:55 AM Re: Obama and the Mosque [Re: Bogus_bill]
Beavis H. Christ Offline
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Originally Posted By: Bogus_bill

He can. Republicans are delighted that he chooses to so close to an election. Every bit helps.


Does it occur to you that part of the problem here is people criticizing the President for standing up for American values, rather than criticizing Republicans for being against them?

Are we so far through the looking glass that defending our own values is a problem?

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