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#30907 - 08/16/10 04:37 PM Re: Some other things built on the "hallowed ground" [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak


I cite a pertinent SCOTUS ruling in response to your last post and you then pull an illogical Grand Canyon leap out of your hinder "guessing" that I advocate "getting rid of the Mormons."



Illogical?

Which of America's many religious faiths is the following specifically most often associated with?

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it is provided that plural marriages shall not be allowed. Can a man excuse his practices to the contrary because of his religious belief? [98 U.S. 145, 167] To permit this would be to make the professed doctrines of religious belief superior to the law of the land, and in effect to permit every citizen to become a law unto himself.


Ask 100 Americans which religion in this country is most likely associated with polygamy and what are 99 going to say?

I might as well make this my tagline:

"Iky, you're an idiot."

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#30910 - 08/16/10 05:27 PM Re: Some other things built on the "hallowed ground" [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints officially discontinued the practice of polygamy after their Prophet Woodruff claimed he received a divine revelation they were to do just that...

in 1890.

I don't think of Mormons as polygamists.

If you do, get over it.
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#30914 - 08/16/10 07:29 PM Re: Some other things built on the "hallowed ground" [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak


I don't think of Mormons as polygamists.

If you do, get over it.



You don't think of Jesus as a pacifist, either. I wouldn't call your particular delusions exactly mainstream.

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#30919 - 08/16/10 08:50 PM Re: Some other things built on the "hallowed ground" [Re: ikayak]
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Nothing political about that. I'm sure that it didn't help Utah statehood or anything...
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#30923 - 08/16/10 09:46 PM Re: Some other things built on the "hallowed ground" [Re: harborknight]
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So now in this thread we have Mormons identified as not only polygamists, but also as liars.

And according to you, the "political hijacking" of the mosque debate is disgusting, but not your political hijacking of their prophet's revelation?

pfft.
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#30925 - 08/16/10 09:59 PM Re: Some other things built on the "hallowed ground" [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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Originally Posted By: Beavis H. Christ
Originally Posted By: ikayak


I don't think of Mormons as polygamists.

If you do, get over it.



You don't think of Jesus as a pacifist, either. I wouldn't call your particular delusions exactly mainstream.



Try to commit this verse to memory this time, Beavis:


Originally Posted By: Jesus
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.



God's Word declares: "the LORD is a man of war".

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#30927 - 08/16/10 11:56 PM Re: Some other things built on the "hallowed groun [Re: ikayak]
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You are taking Matthew 10:34 out of the context in which Christ used it.

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#30928 - 08/17/10 03:57 AM Re: Some other things built on the "hallowed groun [Re: ikayak]
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I think that a religious debate was politically hijacked in 1890, and the Mormons, specifically their prophet, gave in. Was it disgusting? Probably, but if they can live with the change in their beliefs, good for them. I don't take that to mean that Muslims or adherents of other religions must do the same.

FWIW, I don't think that Mormons are liars, but as someone who is not Mormon, I do think they are wrong. I don't hold that against them any more than anyone else whose religion I don't buy into.

Personally, I don't have a problem with plural marriages among consenting adults, if that is a part of your religion. I have a problem when participants are underage, coerced, or unaware of the situation. Barring that, keep the government out of marriage.

That the Mormons are no longer polygamists is probably to their advantage, though.
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