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#30908 - 08/16/10 04:42 PM Architect patterned WTC after Mecca
Beavis H. Christ Offline
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No wonder the fundie Muslims were pissed--the WTC complex was apparently patterned after the Grand Mosque of Mecca! And no, this ain't the Onion.

http://www.slate.com/id/2060207


Edited by Beavis H. Christ (08/16/10 04:44 PM)

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#30912 - 08/16/10 06:01 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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This is old news.
Glad you're getting up to speed.

What is considered Islamic design was created from pre-Islamic Egyptian, Persian, and Byzantine architecture.

BTW, there is absolutely no reason or excuse that justifies the terrorist acts committed against the WTC.
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#30915 - 08/16/10 07:32 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak

BTW, there is absolutely no reason or excuse that justifies the terrorist acts committed against the WTC.


There is "motivation," which is one of the ways you can both solve a crime and help make it more difficult to repeat.

Then there is "bigotry," which involves scapegoating an entire class of people.

There is no excuse. But there was certainly a reason that justified the attacks in the minds of the people who perpetrated them.

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#30916 - 08/16/10 07:34 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak


What is considered Islamic design was created from pre-Islamic Egyptian, Persian, and Byzantine architecture.



Oh, and BTW, I'm sure the architect, who spent all that time before and after designing the WTC working on Saudi projects, was thinking the whole time "cool, I'll introduce some pre-Islamic elements into this."

Or perhaps he was just influenced by the

Islamic architecture

all around him during that other work. Which he was performing for Muslims. Who are also what is known as

Islamic.

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#30918 - 08/16/10 08:37 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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"The architect", Minoru Yamasaki, a Seattle native who also designed Seattle's Pacific Science Center, Puget Sound Plaza, and the IBM building, was heavily influenced by French architect LeCorbusier; Gothic and Indian architecture.

What was he thinking?

First of all, he was thinking of designing a romantic modernistic high rise of beauty.
Then he was thinking he would design narrow vertical windows due to his acrophobia.
Then he was thinking how to accomplish it structurally.

Ironically, he was thinking:

Originally Posted By: Minoru Yamasaki
World trade means world peace and thus the trade center should be a living symbol of global harmony. The World Trade Center should, because of its importance become a representation of man’s belief in humanity, his need for individual dignity, his beliefs in the cooperation of men, and through cooperation, his ability to find greatness.



Why don't you actually research that which you attempt to babble about?
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#30934 - 08/17/10 10:35 AM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak


Why don't you actually research that which you attempt to babble about?


RTFA, idiot.

Quote:
amasaki described its plaza as "a mecca, a great relief from the narrow streets and sidewalks of the surrounding Wall Street area." True to his word, Yamasaki replicated the plan of Mecca's courtyard by creating a vast delineated square, isolated from the city's bustle by low colonnaded structures and capped by two enormous, perfectly square towers—minarets, really. Yamasaki's courtyard mimicked Mecca's assemblage of holy sites—the Qa'ba (a cube) containing the sacred stone, what some believe is the burial site of Hagar and Ishmael, and the holy spring—by including several sculptural features, including a fountain, and he anchored the composition in a radial circular pattern, similar to Mecca's.

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#30946 - 08/17/10 09:37 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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Beavis, I will try to type slowly so you will have a better chance of comprehending. The architecture used in building mosques was used in ancient Greek and Roman and Indian architecture long before little Muhammad set foot on earth. Neither Muhammad, Islam, nor Yamasaki created the original.

Btw, you might want to check the definition of "mecca".
And what do the arcades in Mecca's courtyard remind you of?
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#30950 - 08/18/10 08:12 AM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak

The architecture used in building mosques was used in ancient Greek and Roman and Indian architecture long before little Muhammad set foot on earth. Neither Muhammad, Islam, nor Yamasaki created the original.


Crosses were around before Jesus, too. I guess the cross on a building is no guarantee of any connection to Christianity, then. Thanks for the tip.

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#30973 - 08/18/10 07:06 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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The Christian cross is neither architectural building design,
nor is it used in my Christian church as a symbol.
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#30975 - 08/18/10 07:42 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: ikayak]
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Maybe not in your church, however, the cruciform or cross-shaped church has been rather common in the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches and is considered an architectural style.

Amiens Cathedral, Notre-Dame de Paris, and the cathedrals in Canterbury and Salisbury are cruciform, as just a few famous examples. Some have transept arms too short to show on the outside of the building but they still have the basic cruciform shape.

Granted, this style is not often used in modern churches. However, the Parish Church of St. Patrick was rebuilt in the cruciform shape as early as the late 1800's. St. Stephen Catholic Church in Glenwood Springs was built in the 1940's in the cruciform design.

Anyway, there are numerous other examples, both old and newer, although it was more common during Medieval and Renaissance times. And it is, indeed, an architectural style.
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