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#30982 - 08/18/10 09:17 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: funkycamper]
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Maybe not in your church, however, the cruciform or cross-shaped church has been rather common in the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches and is considered an architectural style.


More correctly referred to as tetraconch.

Cruciform architecture is found in the ancient Egyptian pyramids.
Christian cross design? Hardly.
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#30985 - 08/18/10 09:58 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak

Cruciform architecture is found in the ancient Egyptian pyramids.
Christian cross design? Hardly.


Oh, that's RICH. All those cathedrals built in the shape of a cross...to reference ancient Egypt? Not as a physical reference to the cross Jesus was crucified on?



Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity Chapel, at St. Thomas Aquinas College. The caption on this picture from their website reads, The Chapel's cruciform shape resembles the crucified Christ. The sanctuary represents Our Lord's sacred head, the transept His arms outstretched on the cross, and the nave His body.

There are approximately 109,099 more easily accessed with just a quick Google search. Shall I go on, or can we stipulate that your assertion is simply silly?

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#30987 - 08/19/10 04:28 AM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: ikayak]
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Sure. It's used at Angkor Wat, too. But the symbolism is different.

I have no idea why you are so vociferously denying what is conventional knowledge about church architecture. Well, I'm done.
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#31006 - 08/19/10 08:22 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: funkycamper]
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Sure. It's used at Angkor Wat, too. But the symbolism is different.


Voila! You just made my point.
Not "Christian architecture", but Hindu!
And in the pyramids, it's Egyptian!

Cruciform, tetraconch, mystic Tau, crus ansata, Chi-Rho, labarum...all pagan, predating Christ.

Next you're going to tell me that the animatronic Billy Bass is a Christian toy because a fish is a Christian symbol.

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#31007 - 08/19/10 10:44 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: ikayak]
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The Christian churches took the cruciform and made it it's own. The symbolism is explicit and intricately described on numerous websites about the numerous churches built in this style.

Do you think Christmas is a Christian holiday? Most of the traditions of Christmas, even the date itself, is based on pagan holidays. So, using your logic, there is no Christ in Christmas. Really?

No, I did not prove your point.
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#31010 - 08/20/10 02:06 AM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: ikayak]
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So, I guess different builders have different uses for the symbolism of their shapes. They have different influences, etc. To understand what the shapes and structure are based on, I guess we would have to go to the architect and see what he said about the influences in his design. Too bad the article didn't mention that. Oh, wait. It did.
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#31015 - 08/20/10 09:10 AM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: harborknight]
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The article quoted one architect's (Laurie Kerr's) opinion.

Yamasaki spoke of incorporating mysticism (there was Kabbalah symbolism in the WTC design), power, and strength into the WTC design. It is just as likely that Bin Laden struck the WTC, and initially from the left (north) tower ("Boaz" - meaning strength)...because the architecture is considered Gothic/Templar/Masonic.

And if you look closely, the WTC was covered with giant tuning forks, a British invention. lol.
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#31023 - 08/20/10 12:23 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: funkycamper]
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The Christian churches took the cruciform and made it it's own. The symbolism is explicit and intricately described on numerous websites about the numerous churches built in this style.

Do you think Christmas is a Christian holiday? Most of the traditions of Christmas, even the date itself, is based on pagan holidays. So, using your logic, there is no Christ in Christmas. Really?

No, I did not prove your point.


The above all depends on how deeply you are willing to examine, understand, and know God's will concerning Christianty.

On the surface, Testamints seem like Christian candy.
And c'mon, I have Jewish friends who celebrate Christmas, and they are not Messianic Jews.
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#31035 - 08/21/10 02:22 AM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: ikayak]
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OK, so you think Christmas is a secular holiday. Interesting. I'm surprised.

So this is what Bizarro World looks like.
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#31036 - 08/21/10 09:35 AM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: funkycamper]
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OK, so you think Christmas is a secular holiday. Interesting. I'm surprised.


This is where it would be helpful if you would think more deeply and carefully about God's Word and true Christian relationship and response to it.

The answers to these questions are found in the Bible:

1. Was Christ born on December 25th?
2. Is celebrating Christ's birth on December 25th biblical?
3. Did the Apostle's observe Christ's birth, on December 25th or any other day?
4. Did Christ instruct us to observe His birth?
5. What did Christ instruct us to do in remembrance of Him?
6. Does not every calendar day belong to the Lord?
7. Constantine was a sun-worshipper and acted apostatically. Surprise, surprise.

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So this is what Bizarro World looks like.


Christ's Spirit can deal with you about that.

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