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#31176 - 08/31/10 06:14 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: ikayak]
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And you are a pharisee.

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#31227 - 09/04/10 10:15 AM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: MonteMark]
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You obviously are confused as to what that term means.
Encouraging someone to think more deeply about their (Christian) faith given to us biblically by Jesus and His Apostles, eschewing the traditions of men rooted in paganism which have morphed into modern "Christian" worship, is exactly the opposite of pharisaical.
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#31228 - 09/04/10 10:25 AM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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Originally Posted By: Beavis H. Christ
Originally Posted By: ikayak

and which symbolism He would want attached to His Bride,


Oh boy. No wonder you hate gays--you're fantasizing about a gay marriage with Jesus!

Nowhere in the Bible is reference made to the Church as "the bride." Allusions are made to similarities between the husband/wife relationship, but how many ways can those be interpreted?

The Comedy of Iky continues.


Revelation 21 identifies the Bride of Christ.
And lo and behold...it's foursquare...not cruciform.
So if someone wants to label an architectural shape/design as "Christian", it would be foursquare architecture.
No crosses in Christ's Kingdom.
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#31229 - 09/04/10 10:50 AM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: ikayak]
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No. I don't believe I'm confused. I wouldn't expect the noisy gong to understand the sounds it is making.


Edited by MonteMark (09/04/10 10:54 AM)

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#31236 - 09/04/10 04:14 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: ikayak]
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Originally Posted By: ikayak


Revelation 21 identifies the Bride of Christ.


Using what's in Revelation 21, your comments make no sense whatsoever, so I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming that you were using "bride of christ" in the common evangelical sense as meaning the church itself.

No crosses in the kingdom? No, I don't suppose that, having died on one, Jeebus would be too keen to be confronted with more of them. But...not a Christian symbol? All those churches and bible publishers and other Christians are wrong?

Y'know, I can be damned arrogant, Iky, but at least I don't pretend I'm not.


Edited by Beavis H. Christ (09/04/10 04:14 PM)

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#31237 - 09/04/10 08:38 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: Beavis H. Christ]
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This is the quote of mine that you cited:

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and which symbolism He would want attached to His Bride,


Which "symbol of Christianity" had we been discussing?
The cross/cruciform.
Christ didn't ordain it as a symbol to identify His Church, nor did His Apostles.
So if you must attach a shape to "Christianity", the tabernacle is the architectural design which symbolizes the Kingdom of Christ.

Biblically, the tabernacle is foursquare shape, not cruciform.
The Bride of Christ.
You can't get more Christian than that.

So...

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All those churches and bible publishers and other Christians are wrong?


I will answer the same way Jesus answered the question of John's baptism:
The cross, a "Christian symbol" from heaven, or of men?


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#31238 - 09/04/10 08:44 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: MonteMark]
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Originally Posted By: MonteMark
No. I don't believe I'm confused. I wouldn't expect the noisy gong to understand the sounds it is making.


Point out exactly what I have posted that is pharisaical.
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#31239 - 09/04/10 09:22 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: funkycamper]
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I think it was the "you are lukewarm" statement. Doesn't that mean I get spat out?

Knowing, understanding and acknowledging that those traditional symbols exist is one thing. My faith is something else.

Why are you confusing the two?


Chilaros, tepid, lukewarm.
Yes, Christ did say that He would spit out the lukewarm.
His words, His warning.

You profess to be a Christian, and yet you neglect regular worship with other believers which we are warned not to do.

You condemn and dismiss biblical instruction by the Apostle Paul, even though the Apostle Peter confirmed Paul's writing as scripture.

You support two people of the same sex entering together into holy matrimony, an institution ordained by God, even though Jesus reaffirmed that marriage is only between one man and one woman.

And you believe your faith and your examination and practice of your faith (Christianity) is just fine, even though we are warned against thinking that we stand sufficient, and are instructed to grow in the knowledge and understanding of our faith.

Yes, I'm concerned your tap is set to lukewarm.
And my concern has little to do with "symbols" or Christmas.
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#31240 - 09/04/10 09:59 PM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: ikayak]
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Well, I guess I'll just have accept what common ground we do have, and clearly, that is that most people are wrong about religion. Really, whatever your views are, a vast majority thinks you are completely wrong.
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#31242 - 09/05/10 07:17 AM Re: Architect patterned WTC after Mecca [Re: ikayak]
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I usually stay out of religious stuff but sometimes I just can't sit back. I have a cousin who is a retired minister. I will quote his facebook page for today:

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I am looking forward to Preaching at First Baptist today...I hope God uses the message to let people know they will be accepted by Him..."AS IS"

When we accept Him we are changed by His Love and Grace!


His father, retired also from the ministry but ALWAYS being asked to preach almost on a weekly basis, has 64 years of continuous service to the same Lord you believe in. The condemnations of Funky would never have come from his mouth. It is totally not needed and I find it offensive. Both he and his son have brought many, many, many people to God without it.

As to Pharisees, I imagine they felt really good about themselves as the quoted laws and pronounced their own condemnations. Superior in their knowledge and godlike in their condemnations. That sounds a lot like your post and can only inspire one to puke.

Finally none of this belongs in the Political forum but I doubt that means much to those that cannot help themselves.



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