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#39228 - 11/13/11 03:12 PM TEA-Party vs. OWS *Graphic*
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Since Stash can post obnoxiously large images it's only fair wink

The "Hipster" should have been labeled "The Leach". Other then that a huge amount of data herein.



What it all comes down to is a lot of American's (Sans the Socialists: Lumberjane, Beavis et al) are unhappy for similar and good reasons.

It is time to water the tree of Liberty?
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#39327 - 11/21/11 10:30 AM Re: TEA-Party vs. OWS *Graphic* [Re: 5th]
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Well, maybe that tree of liberty got a dose of pepper water already...

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#39328 - 11/21/11 11:31 AM Re: TEA-Party vs. OWS *Graphic* [Re: tsunamitsurfer]
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You confuse the definition and meaning of liberty, maybe. I for one cannot see what part of Liberty they are protesting for. Love the graphic though. "Just watering my hippies", LMFAO!
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#39330 - 11/21/11 01:08 PM Re: TEA-Party vs. OWS *Graphic* [Re: tsunamitsurfer]
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I never noticed before but in the background about everyone has a camera turned on the action. How dumb are these security people?
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#39331 - 11/21/11 01:30 PM Re: TEA-Party vs. OWS *Graphic* [Re: tsunamitsurfer]
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#39332 - 11/21/11 01:34 PM Re: TEA-Party vs. OWS *Graphic* [Re: 5th]
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Originally Posted By: 5th
You confuse the definition and meaning of liberty, maybe. I for one cannot see what part of Liberty they are protesting for. Love the graphic though. "Just watering my hippies", LMFAO!


They're protesting the same as the Tea Partiers, except the police never pepper sprayed the old folks at those rallies. Even your graphic pretty much showed that they share the same grievances in term. So, when you used a slogan that the Tea Partiers used, I turned the phrase.

That said: If the police did the same thing (pepper spray) to the Tea Partiers, I would be just as outraged. From all of the videos I've seen (about the UC Davis protest), there was no reason for that response. To peacefully protest is a right in this country. Once that protest goes sour (violence, etc.), then the authorities can step in and control it. That wasn't the case this time at UC Davis.

I won't speak about the other incidents, but to me, one instance of this tactic in this manner is too many. It doesn't even matter what they are protesting about, because that message is now lost in the spray of pepper.

(I'll get off my rarely used soap box now.)
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#39333 - 11/21/11 01:38 PM Re: TEA-Party vs. OWS *Graphic* [Re: Bogus_bill]
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Originally Posted By: Bogus_bill
I never noticed before but in the background about everyone has a camera turned on the action. How dumb are these security people?


Too dumb to be allowed to carry weapons.
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#39334 - 11/21/11 01:40 PM Re: TEA-Party vs. OWS *Graphic* [Re: mdean]
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Originally Posted By: 5th
You confuse the definition and meaning of liberty, maybe. I for one cannot see what part of Liberty they are protesting for.


I’ll take “the right of the people peaceably to assemble” from the Bill of Rights for $1,000 Alex.


Originally Posted By: Bogus_bill
How dumb are these security people?


Not security people as in “Security Guards” but they are actual law enforcement officers.
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#39335 - 11/21/11 03:00 PM Re: TEA-Party vs. OWS *Graphic* [Re: Madicarus]
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Originally Posted By: Madicarus
Originally Posted By: 5th
You confuse the definition and meaning of liberty, maybe. I for one cannot see what part of Liberty they are protesting for.


I’ll take “the right of the people peaceably to assemble” from the Bill of Rights for $1,000 Alex.

Gotcha. They are protesting peacefully for the right of people to peaceably assemble. Makes perfect sense.

And next you're gonna say that these occumorons should be given free education. Good thing the 14th amendment gives Special and Unique Snowflakes free rides to school.


Care to try to explain my original question now. Here, simple talk: Liberty = freedom from a tyrannical government.

What part of a government are they protesting as tyrannical?


Edited by 5th (11/21/11 03:03 PM)
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#39336 - 11/21/11 03:22 PM Re: TEA-Party vs. OWS *Graphic* [Re: tsunamitsurfer]
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TEA Partiers protested the scope and size of Government. Equating the Federal Government to being Tyrannical. Big enough to give everything and take everything. As well as the enslavement of the American people by the so-called "Federal Reserve" a privately owned bank.

Occumorons are protesting Wall Street. Well, 1/99 are. Remember there are 99% bitching about 99 different things: War / Legal Pot / Student Loans, the list counted is extraordinary. Nothing about a Tyrannical Government.

If they want to "protest". Run for office, don't get bought, like Obama, by Wall Street and change it. Until then they are creating more of a public nuisance then anything else.

Also "Law Enforcement" doesn't show up at UC campus' and pepper spray people. They were called on campus or at least called to the scene because of something the protester provoked, thus negating any shread of "peaceful assembly" they may have had.
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