I am almost convinced that if a protest doesn't cause some blood to be drawn by the police it will go nowhere. Can you think of any meaningful protest that brought about changes that blood didn't flow? Think union organization or the war protests during the Vietnam war.

It is wrong but I am not surprised.

I've come to think of "peaceful protest", "non violent demonstration" and "civil disobedience" in the same way that I think of the stuff at the theater which occurs before "and now, our feature presentation".

Book 'em, Danno



The whole line was full of Unique and Special Snowflakes, or spoiled brats as is a better description. Point in case the ones in the Forbes video recording the "atrocity" with an iPad and the dozen or so smart phones. All those devices made by eeeevil corporations.

Note to occumorons: Don't piss off people with the authority to cavity search you. And when a guy points a high density pepper spray canister at you and advises you to go home, Mommy & Daddy will be there with mac&cheese and a hanky, Go Home.

This bit of propaganda would seem to suggest that the ONLY thing that is being protested are corporations that produce things like chickens, power, etc. It was the banking industry and their crooked shenanigans that got us into this mess and, it appears, the next mess to come.

What did these drones produce except ways to bankrupt the whole nation and perhaps the world. Their cozy connections to our congressmen is just one of the things being protested. This is really more than just us against corporations. To try to simplify it as such is not going to work.

It is just propaganda.

Didn't care for your guy. He gave the standard trickle down "Thank them for making money and if you're really good, you can mow their lawn" BS.

Look at the police in this video. People sitting down, posing no threat to anyone get pepper sprayed by our law enforcement officers. Abominable. But, be sure to watch starting at 6:13 when the still peaceful protesters shame the officers into leaving. They were chanting, "You can go!" but, they could have just as easily been chanting, "If you're nice, we'll let you leave." Remember, we left Viet Nam and Korea because "they" didn't quit. I think this group isn't going to quit either. And, your side isn't willing to spend enough tax dollars to buy enough cops to wear them out.

Heads could roll. We have the potential of having our own Arab spring with armed mobs if things get worse and congress tries to deny that there is a problem because their masters tell them to. Interesting times.

Most of these cops have consciences and clubbing and macing innocent protesters will eventually cause some of them to side with the protesters. I have always wondered about the national guard members that fired on students at Kent State. How many times could they be told to do that before they simply quit obeying orders. Right now in Syria some troops are joining the people they were shooting last week.

At the very least this kind of publicity is going to cost some people elections.

This is how police brutality produces wins for protesters.

I find your attitude quite interesting since you participated in local Tea Party events. Why is one OK but not the other?

I support the Tea Partier's rights to protest even though I disagree with their POV. I would appreciate you doing the same for those you disagree with. Everybody deserves to have a voice in a Democratic Republic.

Disagree. Agree. And that's the fundamental issue with the occumorons/99%ers, or so called.

There is no unified protest issue. Sure some are protesting that issue.



They'll split again. Most will go home for the winter, Mommy's got hot mac&cheese waiting.

I coordinated TEA party protests as well.

One is OK because there was a unified message. OWS is a Hodgepodge of people complaining about 99 different issues and few agreeing with the protester next to them, yet staying there just to complain.

Look at the arrest ratio between the two protest groups TEA Party and OWS/99%ers.

Look at the PUBLIC grounds left behind when the TEA Party left and the OWS/99%ers were told to leave.

Sure I'll give you freedom to assemble. But you tell your OWS/99%ers to stop the vandalism / theft / drugs / overdoses / public defecation and the ad nauseam of PUBLIC nuisances that it is committing.




BTW. That's Our flag he's shitting on.

But sure, Respect.



Everyone has a voice, and it can be expressed in their right to vote. Obama the Wall Street President should be the focus of their vote or lack there of. They can also elect to RUN for public servitude, if they had the fortitude to remain unpurchased from those they pretend to protest.

Well, I do find it amazing how few were arrested from Tea Party protests considering the guns that were frequently brandished and the violence-inciting rhetoric that was common.

I saw no cohesive message from the Tea Partiers beyond 'we hate government and especially hate Obama' message. Always found it funny how many people were of an age to collect social security and medicare and surely weren't turning them down, while bemoaning government programs. Just more of the "I've got mine, screw you" mentality. Ya know, like a 2 year old.

Shitting in public is icky and gross. It is unfortunate that a few bad apples like him paint all participants with that broad brush. That is the type of person and activity that should result in arrest, not those sitting peacefully on a sidewalk.

Agree.

Americans have the right to peaceful protest. There is no qualifying measure that must be met. There is no demand for popular vote or cohesive ideals. It's a right. It is worth defending for all. Anyone unable to understand that simple precept has no business lecturing others on a subject they clearly don't comprehend.

So, you're volunteering your front yard for the Occumorons of Grays Harbor to launch their protests from.?.?. Have fun with that!

Hardly the first time you didn't get it.

And yes, given the choice of Occupy vs. Tea Party, I'd take the Occupy crowd.

There is no defending the use of pepper spray on peaceful protesters who are sitting down. However, occupying these parks and public places for extended periods of time probably exceeds the idea of public use that was intended for them.

So what we wind up with is a choice by officials of what is more important: the extended misuse of public property for protest or the rights of people to protest. If I were a mayor that was in charge I would only consider that the alternative could be riots, burning cars, burning buildings, shootings, expensive police use, broken glass, etc.

With that in mind I would supply showers, garbage collection and port-a-potties and be happy. I might even tell the press that I was defending their rights. It might get me re-elected. I would be saving my city money.

I am just trying to figure out why anyone has a problem with OWS. Who cares if there is no central point? People are getting it out of their system non-violently.

Oh, that's a no-brainer. The sheer exhaustion of attempting to translate their misspelled monosyllabic cardboard missives would sway the deal. Plus, I don't remember anyone at any Occupy movement carrying a gun wearing a "Let's water the Tree of Liberty with your blood" shirt. Watch Hannity or O'Reilly or even that rat-bastard Ted Nugent have a cow the first time one of those show up at an Occupy Rally.

But there is a central point, and it hasn't escaped the financial industry.

http://upwithchrishayes.msnbc.msn.com/_n...ll-street-video

What they mean by "no central point" is "no spokesman".

Part of the problem we currently have in this country is that 50% of the people don't believe anything that comes out of MSNBC and the other 50% don't believe anything that comes out of Fox.
Furthermore, Hayes has direct ties to the President. According to Wikipedia: "Hayes is married to Kate A. Shaw, Associate Counsel for President Barack Obama and daughter of award-winning Chicago journalist Andy Shaw, who has also appeared a number of times on MSNBC."
Actual "facts" which everyone can agree on seem almost nonexistent anymore.

Uh-huh...I'm sure it hasn't.











I could go on...

Brilliant!

LMMFAO!!!!!

Totally the mdean crowd. Full of fucking genius! Birds of a feather, huh, Mikey.

However, Stash is completely right. None of then said exactly.... I want free education. Ya know, cuz "Throw me a bone pay my tuition" is completely different.