#39968 - 12/14/11 03:50 PM
Re: 1% of the 99%
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There are some interesting statistics out there about the Tea Party but the following ABC News story really hit's at their relevance. story The Tea Party has been less visible when it comes to the 2012 elections, with many questioning whether it wields the same kind of influence it once did. There have been no rallies in Washington, D.C., recently and the movement has been overshadowed by the Occupy Wall Street movement.
Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney, the top two contenders for the GOP nomination, have both supported policies on health care reform and economic issues that go against the very core principles of the Tea Party movement.
There’s also little unity within the movement. Though some Tea Party leaders have endorsed Gingrich, saying that there’s no perfect candidate, one of the movement’s shining stars, Sen. Rand Paul, today warned that doing so could crumble the movement.
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#39969 - 12/14/11 04:05 PM
Re: 1% of the 99%
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There are some interesting statistics out there about the Tea Party but the following ABC News story really hit's at their relevance. story The Tea Party has been less visible when it comes to the 2012 elections, with many questioning whether it wields the same kind of influence it once did. There have been no rallies in Washington, D.C., recently and the movement has been overshadowed by the Occupy Wall Street movement.
Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney, the top two contenders for the GOP nomination, have both supported policies on health care reform and economic issues that go against the very core principles of the Tea Party movement.
There’s also little unity within the movement. Though some Tea Party leaders have endorsed Gingrich, saying that there’s no perfect candidate, one of the movement’s shining stars, Sen. Rand Paul, today warned that doing so could crumble the movement. You trust the "statistics" of the liberal media outlet ABC News to be reported accurately towards a conservative grass root movement? This is only part of a nullification effort. It would be like Stash trusting Glen Beck to give an accurate reporting of OWS. ^Stash, send me an PM if you need a new keyboard and/or monitor due to drink spewage at the hilarity of you ever trusting Glen Beck "News" reporting.
Edited by 5th (12/14/11 04:10 PM)
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#39970 - 12/14/11 04:39 PM
Re: 1% of the 99%
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Stash, send me an PM if you need a new keyboard and/or monitor due to drink spewage at the hilarity of you ever trusting Glen Beck "News" reporting. The monitor is ok. It gets further away the older I get, you know. But, the keyboard is a little messed up now. I'll handle it, though. Thanks.
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#39988 - 12/15/11 09:29 AM
Re: 1% of the 99%
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While I disagree with a lot of what you have to say, the lack of a leader with a single message proves that George Soros is not behind this...as many on the Far Right claim. However, the single-message of the Tea Party protesters supports the notion that the Koch Bros. were behind that movement. Personally, I'd rather be part of a grass-roots effort that is not yet coordinated, and may never be, but who are protesting from their own experience and ideals than sheeple doing the bidding of some 1%ers who just want more for themselves and want others to do all the work for them. But that's me. YMMV. And what you just did by lumping the Kosh Brothers and calling TEA-Party activists sheeple is what I do to Occumoron and 99%ers. Just like Beavis and Stash and that lil bity old lady who got inducted into the GHDemocrat hall of fame does by calling people like me "TeaBaggers". Vilify the movements that we disagree with. However, the TEA-Party was around long before Kosh and Palin and those co-opted it. Just like the Original kids that well, Occupied Wallstreet by acually Occupying Wallstreet were the originals and their movement has been hijacked. When the masses move in the message gets diluted. Vilification becomes easier. Not vilifying anybody. Just stating the facts as I see 'em. When a movement is actually whipped up via a crazy TV host, it's not a grassroots movement.
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#39990 - 12/15/11 01:44 PM
Re: 1% of the 99%
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Not vilifying anybody. Just stating the facts as I see 'em. When a movement is actually whipped up via a crazy TV host, it's not a grassroots movement. In truth you are vilifying. And now you associate the movement with a "crazy TV host". A. Who the heck are you referring to as a crazy TV host? There are a multitude out there. B. I think you are having trouble, like most liberals do, in acknowledging/understanding that the TEA-party movement was going for 2 years before it had ANY mention on TV much less by any "crazy TV hosts". I think it's only because some crazy TV host, who you don't like, mentioned it that it was brought to your attention. Once you have the association with the "crazy TV host" it's easier for you to dismiss it. It would me be like denying the original OWS protesters who were actually on wall street. Then saying this hodgepodge of shit/OccuCamps was only drummed up by Soros.
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#40007 - 12/16/11 09:00 AM
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I would certainly be interested in you giving a more detailed account of your version of events as we are certainly remembering things differently. So when did it start? What was the original point? How did it gain momentum? Yada yada.
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#40011 - 12/16/11 09:35 AM
Re: 1% of the 99%
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You trust the "statistics" of the liberal media outlet ABC News to be reported accurately towards a conservative grass root movement? That tactic, my friend, is the way liberals around here run their smear campaigns and counter my Fox news specials. Personally I cannot see a hint of a lie in the story. In this choosing of a Republican candidate, the Tea Party's supposed clout is a no show. If you were around here a couple years ago you would remember me arguing that NO party should ever have the House, the Senate and the Presidency. The Tea Party came along and forced some moderation in our spendthrift congress. The 99% and the fact that half of this nation now is below the poverty line is going to change how we vote again. Be thankful for the 99%. They still have some control over who represents us.
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#40022 - 12/16/11 10:17 PM
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I would certainly be interested in you giving a more detailed account of your version of events as we are certainly remembering things differently. So when did it start? What was the original point? How did it gain momentum? Yada yada. 60,000 people. Sounds pretty grass roots. With that we started building and The GOP started it's infiltration just as we were reaching out. The Dutton's and the Randall's and the Wick's were shills from the local GOP. We (The local tea party) met at a local farm the December before Zelasko Park. We were about 30 of the 150 or so in Zelasko park that had never attended a GOP/Republican event and we saw them there. By this time it was co-opted by the people we despised as much as you do. The Palins, The Koch Brothers and now to put a fork in it
Edited by 5th (12/16/11 10:21 PM)
Edit Reason: point of clarification
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