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#39807 - 12/09/11 07:40 PM 1% of the 99%
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I want a button that says that. Seriously. A lot of fucking stupid lazy bitches in colleges getting worthless degrees. Grow up OccuIdiots.

Then again there are some, like me, who are gainfully rewarded for smart decisions.

Facebook IPO to create 1,000 millionaires

By the way Mr. Carlin the "Club" doesn't get to vote who joins. You have to be smart enough to figure out how to use their money against them.
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#39817 - 12/10/11 09:09 AM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: 5th]
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A lot of fucking stupid lazy bitches in colleges getting worthless degrees.

Then again there are some, like me, who are gainfully rewarded for smart decisions.


One of those worthless degrees might have broadened your knowledge a bit more than what you present here. Smart decisions, hard work and a lot of luck make millionaires. However, millionaires and greed are not necessarily good for the country.
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#39826 - 12/10/11 04:58 PM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: Bogus_bill]
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Neither are jealousy, envy and self righteous entitlement. Those are what's driving you're so called 99%.


Edited by 5th (12/10/11 05:00 PM)
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#39856 - 12/11/11 08:59 PM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: 5th]
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I really have to disagree with that. In today's world, money means having political power creating a huge imbalance. A desire to bring this country back to a better balance is hardly the same thing as jealous, envy or self-righteous entitlement.
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#39859 - 12/12/11 07:32 AM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: 5th]
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self righteous entitlement.


I didn't know the 99% were marching for entitlement. I thought it was more about bailing out crooked banks and punishing everyone else. Other things yes but essentially the protests are about our elected officials doing the 1%'s will because they are being bought.

I am hoping that the OWS people are the tip of a giant iceberg.

BTW you can find sympathy for the OWS cause even among millionaires.
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#39865 - 12/12/11 03:55 PM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: funkycamper]
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Originally Posted By: funkycamper
I really have to disagree with that. In today's world, money means having political power creating a huge imbalance. A desire to bring this country back to a better balance is hardly the same thing as jealous, envy or self-righteous entitlement.


You are absolutely correct! I would stand in line, 5th even, protesting with you to resolve the imbalance of power.

However, you and I are talking two separate issues initially. And that is the fundamental problem with OWS AND 99%ers Neither group separately or collectively has a unified protest platform. And the issue you speak about is NOT the front line protest. Look at the protesters shutting down ports. Or the idiot college kids protesting and getting watered.

Fortunately for me I can vilify them (OWS & 99%ers) because they don't have a unified protesting platform. And I will say that 99% of the 99%ers are lazy leaches that are motivated by envy, jealousy and out of self righteous entitlement.

As I stated I am 1% of the 99% that are not sitting around waiting for a hand out or gov't cheese or Socialism to steal my country more then it has. So was the soldier in the image I posted. And so are the hard working people tired of having their lives interfered with and hindered by the rich AND the poor.
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#39866 - 12/12/11 04:04 PM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: Bogus_bill]
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self righteous entitlement.


I didn't know the 99% were marching for entitlement. I thought it was more about bailing out crooked banks and punishing everyone else. Other things yes but essentially the protests are about our elected officials doing the 1%'s will because they are being bought.


That's what YOU want the protests to be about. There may even be 10 or 1000 or 10000 more "you's" protesting for YOUR issues. BUT OWS and 99%ers are not a UNIFIED protesting group. So sorry, Charlie. That's not gonna fly. Well Actually it might, to someone with 1/5th the brain power of and average IQ American(Lumberjack).

Ohhhhh and what are the OWS dock protesters protesting? Story

Originally Posted By: politico
In a coordinated effort called “Shut Down Wall Street on the Waterfront,” the Occupy demonstrators in a host of cities, including Portland, San Diego, Los Angeles, Oakland, Tacoma and Seattle, are marching on the ports and attempting to shut down the docks in a show of opposition to corporate profits.


OWS and 99%ers are doomed to fail because they are pissing off the WORKING class.

Do you also OccupyFlash as well. Get the picture of just how ridiculous your movement has become? I'll give you a moment to OccupyElBano to have a movement.


Edited by 5th (12/12/11 05:10 PM)
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#39925 - 12/14/11 12:16 AM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: 5th]
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Originally Posted By: 5th
Originally Posted By: funkycamper
I really have to disagree with that. In today's world, money means having political power creating a huge imbalance. A desire to bring this country back to a better balance is hardly the same thing as jealous, envy or self-righteous entitlement.


You are absolutely correct! I would stand in line, 5th even, protesting with you to resolve the imbalance of power.

However, you and I are talking two separate issues initially. And that is the fundamental problem with OWS AND 99%ers Neither group separately or collectively has a unified protest platform. And the issue you speak about is NOT the front line protest. Look at the protesters shutting down ports. Or the idiot college kids protesting and getting watered.

Fortunately for me I can vilify them (OWS & 99%ers) because they don't have a unified protesting platform. And I will say that 99% of the 99%ers are lazy leaches that are motivated by envy, jealousy and out of self righteous entitlement.

As I stated I am 1% of the 99% that are not sitting around waiting for a hand out or gov't cheese or Socialism to steal my country more then it has. So was the soldier in the image I posted. And so are the hard working people tired of having their lives interfered with and hindered by the rich AND the poor.


While I disagree with a lot of what you have to say, the lack of a leader with a single message proves that George Soros is not behind this...as many on the Far Right claim. However, the single-message of the Tea Party protesters supports the notion that the Koch Bros. were behind that movement. Personally, I'd rather be part of a grass-roots effort that is not yet coordinated, and may never be, but who are protesting from their own experience and ideals than sheeple doing the bidding of some 1%ers who just want more for themselves and want others to do all the work for them. But that's me. YMMV.
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#39930 - 12/14/11 08:42 AM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: funkycamper]
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Personally, I'd rather be part of a grass-roots effort that is not yet coordinated, and may never be, but who are protesting from their own experience and ideals



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#39961 - 12/14/11 11:55 AM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: funkycamper]
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Originally Posted By: funkycamper
While I disagree with a lot of what you have to say, the lack of a leader with a single message proves that George Soros is not behind this...as many on the Far Right claim. However, the single-message of the Tea Party protesters supports the notion that the Koch Bros. were behind that movement. Personally, I'd rather be part of a grass-roots effort that is not yet coordinated, and may never be, but who are protesting from their own experience and ideals than sheeple doing the bidding of some 1%ers who just want more for themselves and want others to do all the work for them. But that's me. YMMV.
And what you just did by lumping the Kosh Brothers and calling TEA-Party activists sheeple is what I do to Occumoron and 99%ers. Just like Beavis and Stash and that lil bity old lady who got inducted into the GHDemocrat hall of fame does by calling people like me "TeaBaggers". Vilify the movements that we disagree with.

However, the TEA-Party was around long before Kosh and Palin and those co-opted it. Just like the Original kids that well, Occupied Wallstreet by acually Occupying Wallstreet were the originals and their movement has been hijacked.

When the masses move in the message gets diluted. Vilification becomes easier.
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#39968 - 12/14/11 03:50 PM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: 5th]
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There are some interesting statistics out there about the Tea Party but the following ABC News story really hit's at their relevance. story

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The Tea Party has been less visible when it comes to the 2012 elections, with many questioning whether it wields the same kind of influence it once did. There have been no rallies in Washington, D.C., recently and the movement has been overshadowed by the Occupy Wall Street movement.

Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney, the top two contenders for the GOP nomination, have both supported policies on health care reform and economic issues that go against the very core principles of the Tea Party movement.

There’s also little unity within the movement. Though some Tea Party leaders have endorsed Gingrich, saying that there’s no perfect candidate, one of the movement’s shining stars, Sen. Rand Paul, today warned that doing so could crumble the movement.
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#39969 - 12/14/11 04:05 PM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: Bogus_bill]
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There are some interesting statistics out there about the Tea Party but the following ABC News story really hit's at their relevance. story

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The Tea Party has been less visible when it comes to the 2012 elections, with many questioning whether it wields the same kind of influence it once did. There have been no rallies in Washington, D.C., recently and the movement has been overshadowed by the Occupy Wall Street movement.

Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney, the top two contenders for the GOP nomination, have both supported policies on health care reform and economic issues that go against the very core principles of the Tea Party movement.

There’s also little unity within the movement. Though some Tea Party leaders have endorsed Gingrich, saying that there’s no perfect candidate, one of the movement’s shining stars, Sen. Rand Paul, today warned that doing so could crumble the movement.


You trust the "statistics" of the liberal media outlet ABC News to be reported accurately towards a conservative grass root movement?

This is only part of a nullification effort. It would be like Stash trusting Glen Beck to give an accurate reporting of OWS.

^Stash, send me an PM if you need a new keyboard and/or monitor due to drink spewage at the hilarity of you ever trusting Glen Beck "News" reporting.


Edited by 5th (12/14/11 04:10 PM)
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#39970 - 12/14/11 04:39 PM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: 5th]
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Originally Posted By: 5th
Stash, send me an PM if you need a new keyboard and/or monitor due to drink spewage at the hilarity of you ever trusting Glen Beck "News" reporting.


The monitor is ok. It gets further away the older I get, you know. But, the keyboard is a little messed up now. I'll handle it, though. Thanks.
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#39988 - 12/15/11 09:29 AM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: 5th]
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Originally Posted By: funkycamper
While I disagree with a lot of what you have to say, the lack of a leader with a single message proves that George Soros is not behind this...as many on the Far Right claim. However, the single-message of the Tea Party protesters supports the notion that the Koch Bros. were behind that movement. Personally, I'd rather be part of a grass-roots effort that is not yet coordinated, and may never be, but who are protesting from their own experience and ideals than sheeple doing the bidding of some 1%ers who just want more for themselves and want others to do all the work for them. But that's me. YMMV.
And what you just did by lumping the Kosh Brothers and calling TEA-Party activists sheeple is what I do to Occumoron and 99%ers. Just like Beavis and Stash and that lil bity old lady who got inducted into the GHDemocrat hall of fame does by calling people like me "TeaBaggers". Vilify the movements that we disagree with.

However, the TEA-Party was around long before Kosh and Palin and those co-opted it. Just like the Original kids that well, Occupied Wallstreet by acually Occupying Wallstreet were the originals and their movement has been hijacked.

When the masses move in the message gets diluted. Vilification becomes easier.


Not vilifying anybody. Just stating the facts as I see 'em. When a movement is actually whipped up via a crazy TV host, it's not a grassroots movement.
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#39990 - 12/15/11 01:44 PM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: funkycamper]
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Not vilifying anybody. Just stating the facts as I see 'em. When a movement is actually whipped up via a crazy TV host, it's not a grassroots movement.

In truth you are vilifying. And now you associate the movement with a "crazy TV host".

A. Who the heck are you referring to as a crazy TV host? There are a multitude out there.

B. I think you are having trouble, like most liberals do, in acknowledging/understanding that the TEA-party movement was going for 2 years before it had ANY mention on TV much less by any "crazy TV hosts". I think it's only because some crazy TV host, who you don't like, mentioned it that it was brought to your attention. Once you have the association with the "crazy TV host" it's easier for you to dismiss it.

It would me be like denying the original OWS protesters who were actually on wall street. Then saying this hodgepodge of shit/OccuCamps was only drummed up by Soros.
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#40007 - 12/16/11 09:00 AM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: 5th]
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I would certainly be interested in you giving a more detailed account of your version of events as we are certainly remembering things differently. So when did it start? What was the original point? How did it gain momentum? Yada yada.
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#40011 - 12/16/11 09:35 AM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: 5th]
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You trust the "statistics" of the liberal media outlet ABC News to be reported accurately towards a conservative grass root movement?


That tactic, my friend, is the way liberals around here run their smear campaigns and counter my Fox news specials. Personally I cannot see a hint of a lie in the story.

In this choosing of a Republican candidate, the Tea Party's supposed clout is a no show.

If you were around here a couple years ago you would remember me arguing that NO party should ever have the House, the Senate and the Presidency. The Tea Party came along and forced some moderation in our spendthrift congress. The 99% and the fact that half of this nation now is below the poverty line is going to change how we vote again.

Be thankful for the 99%. They still have some control over who represents us.
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#40021 - 12/16/11 09:48 PM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: Bogus_bill]
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Sure, they control which of the candidates the 1% puts in front of them to vote on. Make sure you get your absentee ballot in on time for good ole Mexico smile
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#40022 - 12/16/11 10:17 PM Re: 1% of the 99% [Re: funkycamper]
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Originally Posted By: funkycamper
I would certainly be interested in you giving a more detailed account of your version of events as we are certainly remembering things differently. So when did it start? What was the original point? How did it gain momentum? Yada yada.


The Beginning 60,000 people. Sounds pretty grass roots. With that we started building and The GOP started it's infiltration just as we were reaching out. The Dutton's and the Randall's and the Wick's were shills from the local GOP. We (The local tea party) met at a local farm the December before Zelasko Park. We were about 30 of the 150 or so in Zelasko park that had never attended a GOP/Republican event and we saw them there. By this time it was co-opted by the people we despised as much as you do. The Palins, The Koch Brothers and now to put a fork in it


Edited by 5th (12/16/11 10:21 PM)
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