#40420 - 12/27/11 11:33 AM
Adam Carolla
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#40421 - 12/27/11 11:59 AM
Re: Adam Carolla
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I couldn't finish it. I cannot respect an opinion where the speakers skill set only allows him to manage what he wants to emphasize by using profanity so why go on.
I do think that the problems belongs to the 100%, not the 1% or the 99%. I think it is counter-productive for our citizens to be at odds with each other and our politicians waging what amounts to class warfare.
That said, the fact that the top 1% makes so much money that they can pay 50% of the taxes sucks. No one is entitled to that much of the pie. That needs to be corrected.
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#40423 - 12/27/11 12:18 PM
Re: Adam Carolla
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I think there's a bleeped out version somewhere out there. No one is entitled to that much of the pie. Who taught you that? People are entitled to as much of "the pie" as they earn, win, or someone gives or wills to them. "The pie" is not finite. That needs to be corrected. uh-huh.
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#40426 - 12/27/11 12:26 PM
Re: Adam Carolla
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No one is entitled to that much of the pie. Who taught you that? People are entitled to as much of "the pie" as they earn, win, or someone gives or wills to them. "The pie" is not finite. I'm shocked... ikayak and I actually agree on something.
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#40427 - 12/27/11 12:36 PM
Re: Adam Carolla
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People are entitled to as much of "the pie" as they earn, win, or someone gives or wills to them. "The pie" is not finite. A church story for you: The Catholic Church in Mexico once owned a huge portion of the land and their revenues they produced. You might compare that to the rich owning a dis-appropriate amount of the USA's wealth. It got to be that the Church was challenging the government because of their wealth and influence. Yeah, just like the rich manipulating media and congressmen. The Catholic Church doesn't own a single acre of land now. It got so ridiculous that the government took it all away from them, a vote and the slash of the pen. They kept the magnificent churches but don't own the land they are sitting on. You can compare that to motivated bunch of citizens who finally vote to end the inequality. Still left were the rich who owned most of the rest of the land. Huge chunks of that were taken away from them and given to the poor not so very long ago. Some votes and the slash of the pen again. A vote and a slash of the pen is all it takes to correct this in the USA as well.
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#40429 - 12/27/11 01:20 PM
Re: Adam Carolla
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I can't fucking agree enough. AssDouches! Brilliant piece. welcome to the cesspool!
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#40439 - 12/27/11 08:27 PM
Re: Adam Carolla
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Save your welcome. I don't speak or write that way, and I believe streaming profanity reflects extremely poorly on the speaker or writer in many ways. In this case I picked through it because I happen to believe adamantly in the core message.
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#40440 - 12/27/11 08:49 PM
Re: Adam Carolla
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And now the drug cartels "own" many of the churches, and almost half of the population lives below the asset based poverty line. Pick your poison.
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#40443 - 12/28/11 05:18 AM
Re: Adam Carolla
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And now the drug cartels "own" many of the churches The Catholic Church????? It is basically the only non-gringo church in Mexico. Email that to Drudge because that is definitely a breaking story! Wow!
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#40444 - 12/28/11 08:07 AM
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It's not a breaking story. I've been reading news outlets and speaking with missionaries about it for over a decade.
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#40454 - 12/28/11 12:00 PM
Re: Adam Carolla
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I really can't listen to it as I can't stand the guy. I couldn't get past about the 45-second mark. And it's not the language as that doesn't bother me. I'm a Carlin fan. I've just always found him to be so inarticulate that I question his intelligence and his voice grates on my nerves. If anyone wants to give me a synopsis, great. If not, I doubt I'm missing much.
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#40462 - 12/28/11 12:55 PM
Re: Adam Carolla
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I really can't listen to it as I can't stand the guy. I couldn't get past about the 45-second mark. And it's not the language as that doesn't bother me. I'm a Carlin fan. I've just always found him to be so inarticulate that I question his intelligence and his voice grates on my nerves. If anyone wants to give me a synopsis, great. If not, I doubt I'm missing much. Mrs. 5th agree's with you regarding the messenger. I don't  iKayak and I agree with the message: You won't  Synopsis: Fuck you, you fat, envious, lazy 99%ers and get some fucking ambition, integrity, pride. And then he calls 'em AssDouches.
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#40466 - 12/28/11 01:24 PM
Re: Adam Carolla
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I agree with Mrs. 5th and Funky regarding the messenger. Carolla has been a no-talent, ass clown for a long time. Wasn't he a complete nobody before Dr. Drew introduced us to him? The world was a better place before that happened. But, because the messenger is such a dick wad, his message regarding the 99% is pretty tainted. Yours is only tainted because your side lost.  Iky's opinion has to be considered, of course, because after all she has god on her side. 
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#40473 - 12/28/11 02:53 PM
Re: Adam Carolla
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Yours is only tainted because your side lost. Queue banjos. And, banjos are go.
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#40486 - 12/28/11 05:07 PM
Re: Adam Carolla
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It's not a breaking story. I've been reading news outlets and speaking with missionaries about it for over a decade. I am no fan of the Catholic Church. After harboring all those pedophile priests, a downfall because of illegal drug activity would be welcome. However, after Googling a bit on the subject I could not find anything except possible donations by drug lords going to the church. That I figure is the lying murderers trying to buy their way into heaven. Whether priests are peddling drugs to their flock is not mentioned. What kind of things are you hearing? I have some good rumors to trade. I'll start: The head priest in LA Paraoquia has a wife in Mexico City. But drugs....no. Not a word.
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#40506 - 12/29/11 11:44 AM
Re: Adam Carolla
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I'm not saying the churches are involved in drug trafficking, but some are benefitting from drug money. As you said/implied, the Catholic churches were stripped of their wealth and power creating a vacuum for the cartels to fill through the churches...either by bribery or extortion. Just as the mafia garnered more power through the churches in Italy and the US, so too the cartels in Mexico. MEXICO CITY — President Felipe Calderon said Wednesday that Mexico's cartels in many cases have moved beyond drugs as their main money-earner and are even trying to supplant the government in parts of the country.
Speaking at an anti-crime conference, Calderon said gangs are imposing fees like taxes in towns they dominate, extorting money from both legitimate and unauthorized businesses. "This has become an activity that defies the government, and even seeks to replace the government," he said. "They are trying to impose a monopoly by force of arms, and are even trying to impose their own laws." Calderon said cartels may even be taking money from churches. "I do not doubt that they are also extorting money from priests and pastors in this country," he said. Drugs are becoming less of a focus for the gangs, he said. "Their main business is not anymore even drug trafficking, sometimes," Calderon said. "Their business is dominating other people." link to msnbc article kvue link
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#40507 - 12/29/11 11:56 AM
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the Catholic churches were stripped of their wealth and power creating a vacuum for the cartels to fill through the churches...either by bribery or extortion. This stripping was accomplished by the Mexican constitution of 1917, long before the emergence of the drug cartels. I doubt any power vacuum existed unfilled until the cartels came along. Just as the mafia garnered more power through the churches in Italy and the US, so too the cartels in Mexico. How does one garner more power through an institution that has been stripped of power, and wealth?
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#40508 - 12/29/11 12:07 PM
Re: Adam Carolla
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Just as Calderon said, the cartels want to take the place of government, which as you know in Mexican history, was the hallmark of corruption. Also as Calderon said, the cartels are in the business of dominating people. History testifies that it's often accomplished either by buying loyalty or by intimidating others into being loyal. Poverty usually equals powerlessness.
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