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#40681 - 01/01/12 12:14 PM Re: Ben Breedlove - [Re: Bogus_bill]
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Maybe seeing the Light is a portent of those whose names were not written in the Book of Life at the foundation of the world, and have not been blotted out by the Lamb.

Heap scorn on the hapless fools who are not (pre)destined to an eternal life with the Almighty.
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#40684 - 01/01/12 12:26 PM Re: Ben Breedlove - [Re: imhotep]
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"She floats! She would only float if she were a witch! Burn her!"

I simply find the whole line of logic irrational. "They must have a disability of some sort to not agree with me." Addled.
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#40686 - 01/01/12 02:43 PM Re: Ben Breedlove - [Re: Stash]
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#40689 - 01/01/12 05:26 PM Re: Ben Breedlove - [Re: Thumper]
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Interesting link. Interesting site.

Compared to the other categories of experiencers, fewer people in the atheist category [1] attempted suicide, [2] saw spirits among the living, [3] received a homecoming, [4] received forgotten knowledge, [5] received past life knowledge, and were [6] told they are not ready to die, than in any other category of experiencer.

This is not surprising to me at all.
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#40692 - 01/01/12 06:04 PM Re: Ben Breedlove - [Re: Stash]
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Kind of proves BB idea about the gift.

A couple interesting quotes from the link.


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The majority of recorded claims link NDEs to feelings of joy and comfort. A statistician calculated that 69 per cent of the thousands of cases he investigated reported a feeling of overwhelming love. When he broke his subjects down by belief (Christian, Religious but non-Christian, Non-religious, New Age, etc) he found 100 per cent of people calling themselves atheists had experienced "tremendous ecstasy". Sixty-three per cent reported the life review experience.



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Ayer's account of his own NDE, for a man of such formidable intellect, was surprisingly similar to most of the others on record, though more elegantly observed. He wrote of "a red light for governing the universe" and some barrier he crossed, "like the River Styx." The experience, he said, "weakened my conviction that death would be the end of me, though I continue to hope it will be."
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#40695 - 01/01/12 07:38 PM Re: Ben Breedlove - [Re: Thumper]
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Actually, I think it kind of prooves my assertions about the whole process. That is, humans when faced with the unknown, often create a god to explain it. I am optomistic, the species will outgrow this tendency.
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#40696 - 01/01/12 08:37 PM Re: Ben Breedlove - [Re: Stash]
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Originally Posted By: stash
I am optomistic, the species will outgrow this tendency.


Humans are outgrowing it. The last to gods created by man are:
Allah = 595A.C.E (approx)
jesus = 001A.C.E

So we are working on 1500 C.E. years without the creation of a new god.


Edited by 5th (01/01/12 08:37 PM)
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