#41307 - 01/24/1210:55 PMRe: State of the union address
[Re: Lumberjack]
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4 more years.
I would rather counteract his further destruction of Americas Foundations then the destruction romney/gengrich(sp) would inflict on America. 2016 is already being planned and America prays a true Conservative will be elected
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"The careful student of history will discover that Christianity has been of very little value in advancing civilization, but has done a great deal toward retarding it." ..........Matilda Joslyn Gage, "Woman, Church and State", 1893
Is there a chart, graph n' stuff showing that when B.O. took office the average price for a gallon of gas was $1.79 and now when he's asking for 4 more years it's $3.60 a gallon?
Is there a chart, graph n' stuff showing that a 50 cent reduction in the price of a gallon of gas over the course of a year would be a $70 billion stimulus for consumers?
Is there a chart, graph n' stuff of the 25,000 miles of the petroleum pipelines already existing within the Ogallala Aquifer, including the 2,000 or so within the borders of Nebraska?
Is there a chart, graph n' stuff showing the 730,000,000,000 gallons of crude oil transported across the aquifer each year, including the 100,000,000 gallons transported across the Nebraska portion?
Is there a chart, graph n' stuff showing that over 24,000,000,000 barrels of crude oil, including the 500,000,000 in Nebraska, have been produced from 2,000 oil wells drilled through the Ogallala Aquifer over the past 80 years?
Is there a chart, graph n' stuff showing that the average price of a gallon of gas is projected to hit $5 this year?
Is there a chart, graph n' stuff showing that just while B.O. was giving his "best speech" last night, the United States borrowed around another $200,000,000 ?
Just wondering n' stuff...
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"The true engine of economic growth will always be companies like Solyndra"...B.O.
I just read a Consumer News article from January 26th, 2009. They list the national average price of a gallon a gas at a nickel higher than what I posted from a Canadian site, so I'll go with the correction...$1.84. (Which, btw, was down $1.14 from the previous year.) Remember, this is the national average, not Washington State gas price which puts my Midwest visitors into shock.
B.O.'s plan to astronomically raise the price of gallon of gas is, of course, not a shock.
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"The true engine of economic growth will always be companies like Solyndra"...B.O.
Is there a chart, graph n' stuff showing that when B.O. took office the average price for a gallon of gas was $1.79 and now when he's asking for 4 more years it's $3.60 a gallon?
Is there a chart, graph n' stuff showing that a 50 cent reduction in the price of a gallon of gas over the course of a year would be a $70 billion stimulus for consumers?
OK, so the rest of the nation finally caught up with us. Obama had nothing to do with the outrageous prices we've been paying since W thought the world was his Stratego board.
Of all the things to try and pin on Obama n' stuff, gas prices seem like one of the weaker arguments.
There's certainly a graph showing that gas cost more under GWB than it does now. Gas was $4.11/gallon in the summer of 2008.
And except for a brief spike in September 2008, went down consistently to $1.61 in December 2008.
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Even the trans canada guys are frustrated with Repubs in congress. They were preparing plans for a better route, but congress demands the old route.
That's probably why B.O. needs to think about it until 2013.
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The fact that it conflicts with your daily Glenn Beck marching orders isn't really my problem.
There you go making wild accusations again. I don't watch Beck, listen to Beck, nor read Beck. Never have. Why do you have this extreme penchant for making yourself seem as silly as Beavis?
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"The true engine of economic growth will always be companies like Solyndra"...B.O.
And except for a brief spike in September 2008, went down consistently to $1.61 in December 2008.
ROFL! "went down consistently"?? Did you look at the picture?
Gas prices went up almost without interruption the entire 8 years GWB was in office then collapsed by 60% within a month of Obama's election?
Here it is again.
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Even the trans canada guys are frustrated with Repubs in congress. They were preparing plans for a better route, but congress demands the old route.
That's probably why B.O. needs to think about it until 2013.
Yes, that's exactly why "he needs to think about it". Doing a thorough due diligence is necessary, and it's not going to have any short term effect on gas prices anyway. Even according to the transcanada guys, Republicans are screwing things up.
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Of all the things to try and pin on Obama n' stuff, gas prices seem like one of the weaker arguments.
In 2008 Obama said that high-er gas prices were fine with him as long if the increase was gradual and the consumer had time to adjust. That really sounds like someone who will work to put policies in place to protect "the people" from taking a huge household budget hit, doesn't it?
It's just one ugly piece of the ugly puzzle.
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"The true engine of economic growth will always be companies like Solyndra"...B.O.
ROFL! "went down consistently"?? Did you look at the picture?
Did you look at your post?
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There's certainly a graph showing that gas cost more under GWB than it does now. Gas was $4.11/gallon in the summer of 2008.
Originally Posted By: me
And except for a brief spike in September 2008, went down consistently to $1.61 in December 2008.
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Yes, that's exactly why "he needs to think about it". Doing a thorough due diligence is necessary, and it's not going to have any short term effect on gas prices anyway. Even according to the transcanada guys, Republicans are screwing things up.
The due diligence has been done...by 80 years of pipeline under the aquifer, and an EIS.
Your default position is so lame, always: blame the Republicans.
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"The true engine of economic growth will always be companies like Solyndra"...B.O.
Of all the things to try and pin on Obama n' stuff, gas prices seem like one of the weaker arguments.
In 2008 Obama said that high-er gas prices were fine with him as long if the increase was gradual and the consumer had time to adjust. That really sounds like someone who will work to put policies in place to protect "the people" from taking a huge household budget hit, doesn't it?
It's just one ugly piece of the ugly puzzle.
Not denying it's an ugly puzzle. But, I'm baffled that you think high gas prices are Obama's fault. But, let's pretend it is. Who is your favored candidate, based on their pledge to get gas back under $2/gallon and keep it there?
I think his most damning comment is that the middle class is going away and the basic American promise is at stake. That's the kind of thing you run on for your first term. When this is your platform a RE-election, it doesn't make the first election seem like such a smart thing.
I think his most damning comment is that the middle class is going away and the basic American promise is at stake. That's the kind of thing you run on for your first term. When this is your platform a RE-election, it doesn't make the first election seem like such a smart thing.
It depends on who your competition is.
If your competition thinks this is a good thing, fire away.
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I read in the news this morning that Buffett's secretary pays a 35.8% tax rate. I've done some playing with numbers, and she either has serious taxable income, or she needs a better tax consultant...or both. I say if you're going to use her for a campaign prop and cite her tax rate, you need to release all pertinent information concerning her taxes and how the 35.8% rate applies. However, that still won't address the calculated disingenuousness of character involved in using her and this misleading (to the dumb masses) tax ambiguity for a campaign prop.
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"The true engine of economic growth will always be companies like Solyndra"...B.O.
I read in the news this morning that Buffett's secretary pays a 35.8% tax rate. I've done some playing with numbers, and she either has serious taxable income, or she needs a better tax consultant...or both. I say if you're going to use her for a campaign prop and cite her tax rate, you need to release all pertinent information concerning her taxes and how the 35.8% rate applies. However, that still won't address the calculated disingenuousness of character involved in using her and this misleading (to the dumb masses) tax ambiguity for a campaign prop.
Every single taxpayer with a $90k taxable income pays 35.65% marginal rate - exclusive of state and local taxes. If a portion of that $90k is self-employment income, you can easily reach 40%.
The marginal tax rate on $90k taxable income is 28%.
Since she's a campaign prop, and her tax situation has been referenced in several of B.O.'s speeches and even his SOTU, her filed tax forms need to be released to the American public for verification.
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"The true engine of economic growth will always be companies like Solyndra"...B.O.
No. The marginal federal taxes on of an unmarried worker earning $90,000 is 35.65%
Like I just said.
Buffet claimed that his secretary pays more tax than him. Buffett gave ABC news his tax return as proof... 17.4% (which is incidentally 25% more than Rommey paid).
It's implausible to assume that Buffet's personal secretary would earn less than $90k. But if her income were higher than $110,000 her marginal taxes would begin to drop.
Do you dispute this basic and obvious observation?
Why does everyone have to prove everything that you disbelieve, but you are so willing to take everything else on faith?
Unassailable faith is impenetrable by reason, facts or logic, but it's in my nature to try anyway.
No. The marginal federal tax on of an unmarried worker earning $90,000 is 35.65%
In your speculative effort to divine Buffett's secretary's MTR, you may want to take into consideration this basic and obvious observation: she's married.
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"The true engine of economic growth will always be companies like Solyndra"...B.O.