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#41565 - 02/03/12 07:37 AM Why I hate religion - the video
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This Youtube video went viral. When Jesus said "IT is finished, he meant it". Religion, that is.

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#41569 - 02/03/12 09:13 AM Define religion [Re: Bogus_bill]
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I think mdean and I had a convo about this a while ago.

Question to the rapper, how did he come to know about Jesus?


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#41571 - 02/03/12 10:18 AM Re: Define religion [Re: Thumper]
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#41572 - 02/03/12 11:11 AM Re: Why I hate religion - the video [Re: Bogus_bill]
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This Youtube video went viral. When Jesus said "IT is finished, he meant it". Religion, that is.


It's a catchy video...but it contains many scriptural inaccuracies/errors. One being, we know from scripture that "it" doesn't mean "religion".

Thumper, I like the RC response to the video, to a point. My main disagreement is that I believe Jesus Christ is the Rock of Ages, the foundation of His Church, the Chief Cornerstone as prophesied in the OT and confirmed in the NT, including by Peter himself. The Church was also built upon Peter's confession, the foundational truth: "You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God".
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#41574 - 02/03/12 11:40 AM Re: Why I hate religion - the video [Re: ikayak]
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My main disagreement is that I believe Jesus Christ is the Rock of Ages, the foundation of His Church, the Chief Cornerstone as prophesied in the OT and confirmed in the NT, including by Peter himself. The Church was also built upon Peter's confession, the foundational truth: "You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God".


I don't disagree with you, however I believe Jesus appointed Peter leader of his Church on Earth. I know not all agree with this, which is their right.




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Matthew 16: 15-19

He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” 16 Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. 18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock[b] I will build my church, and the gates of hell[c] shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed[d] in heaven.”
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#41586 - 02/04/12 10:08 AM Re: Why I hate religion - the video [Re: Thumper]
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What exactly do you see in that scripture that leads you to believe Jesus appointed Peter leader of his Church on Earth?
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#41593 - 02/04/12 08:51 PM Re: Why I hate religion - the video [Re: ikayak]
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18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock[b] I will build my church, and the gates of hell[c] shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed[d] in heaven.”

and Jesus gave Peter and the apostles commands as to what that work should be. At the last supper, He commanded, "Do this in memory of Me." (Luke 22:19) He commanded them to "Make disciples of all nations" (Matthew 28:19), and to "Go into the whole world and proclaim the Gospel to every creature." (Mark 16:15)
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#41601 - 02/06/12 05:51 AM Re: Why I hate religion - the video [Re: Thumper]
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That doesn't really answer my question.

Let's start again with this:

1. What is "the kingdom of heaven"?

2. What are "the keys of the kingdom of heaven"?
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#41608 - 02/06/12 10:23 AM Re: Why I hate religion - the video [Re: ikayak]
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Are you questioning the authority of the Pope? I think you may be.
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#41609 - 02/06/12 10:29 AM Re: Why I hate religion - the video [Re: Thumper]
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Let's leave the Pope out of it and have a scripture based discussion.

As a Christian, I am asking you, another Christian, direct questions concerning Holy Scripture.

Can you and/or are you willing to answer them?
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